Wednesday, October 24, 2007

Intel's Paul alleges discrimination by Europeans

He says he was singled out for not being an Euro. He is ready for a Title VII action -- or the equivalent in Europe.

AMD has taken 23.5% of the overall CPU market.

Hector's asset-lite strategy will kick-in in 2009. after the jury awards AMD $61.5 billion in treble damages and AMD owns all of Intel's FABs - sans the workers.

81 Comments:

Blogger Scott said...

Hey Sharikou,

You mispelled the word "Paul" in your title. It's not "Pual".

9:52 AM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

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10:21 AM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

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10:26 AM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

It's alarming that the EU seems to only be going after successful and profitable companies. Intel, Microsoft, Qualcomm - it lends to the credibility of the accusations starting to come forward that the EU is simply going after these global companies because companies in the EU can't compete globally.

And hey, fuckwit, if you're going to fraudulently claim to have a ph.d the least you could do is act like it and learn to spell and not type in incoherent babble half the time (read back through his posts for some amazing clues as to how there's no way in hell he can have a ph.d)

PH.D's issued buy the Univearsity of Teh EnterNet are not valid, did you know that douchebag?

10:27 AM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Rodney said...

Spaztic Pizza brings up a good point. Although Microsoft clearly falls under the "bully" category, a lot of the negative attention it receives might just be because it's an American corporation. The French government banned the use of Blackberries because it feared Americans would have access to the information passing those devices. Europe is quickly ramping up its own GPS network (forget what it's called) In other words... if it's American, they want it out of their country and a home grown version instead.

Back on topic... I think that Intel coming under scrutiny in Europe is pretty meaningless like Spaztic has pointed out. Just another way of dragging down an American corporation. If AMD actually had any profits to go after, they would likely find themselves in the same situation.

In summary... Sharikou is still a retard and AMD is still getting its teeth kicked in by Intel.

10:38 AM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Tonus said...

Trust busters are bound to go after large and successful companies, since they're the only ones who are realistically able to take advantage of their dominant position, if they choose to do so. As long as Intel has not broken any rules they will be okay. I suspect that even if they are found in violation of any laws they won't be fined $3.2 billion. I doubt they'd be fined very much, really.

It's an interesting situation. The EU can't just tell Intel to bug off, as that would hurt both Intel (loss of sales) and Europe (loss of supply). AMD would love that, they'd be able to sell CPUs for tens of thousands of dollars and still have a high demand to fill, heh.

But I don't expect anything earth-shaking to come of it. People love to throw around big numbers when this stuff is going on, but absent a really bad smoking gun, it never happens.

10:53 AM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

I suspect that even if they are found in violation of any laws they won't be fined $3.2 billion. I doubt they'd be fined very much, really.


Intel has not been found guilty. Even if they were, I agree the fine would be nowhere near $3.2bn. The EU could have fined Microsoft some $4bn. The amount they were actually fined was something around $500M and that was a record fine.

If Intel is found guilty, the worst they'll face is $500M. More importantly than that, AMD wouldn't see a cent of that money.

BTW Spaztic Pizza, you missed Apple in your list of sucessful companies the EU is going after. It seems if you are a successful American corporation that's invented something that's truly changed the world i.e. the microprocessor, Windows (the software :-P) or the iPod, the EU is just going to come after you.


Sharikou, that market share data seems low considering your past 'prediction'.

You wrote this last year:

3Q07: AMD FAB36 ramps to 20,000wspm at 65nm. FAB38 ramps. Chartered FAB7 ramps. AMD grabs >50% of market share.

Then again, in the vary same posting you stated that by Q4'07 (i.e. now) Intel would be bankrupt.

11:14 AM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

I didn't really research other companies being targeted by the European Trade Gestapo...I did know about Apple just didn't include 'em... :)

I said in another thread - Microsoft, who has a CASH RESERVE OF 49 BILLION, was fined less than 500 million. Intel's cash reserve is 10 billion. EU fines are based on a percentage so Intel's will be no where NEAR Microsofts - I'm guessing in the 200m range.

And giant is very correct - AMD will not see dime one of that money.

Sharifraud's babble that AMD would be given all of Intel's fabs is so much garbage. The EU has -0- control over any companies assets, regardless of where they are. Even IF they seized Intel's European assets (which in all honestly I don't know what they hold in the EU) they have no legal authority or means to seize any of Intel's assets in the US, Middle East, or anywhere else.

It just shows how moronic Sharikook really is and how little this retarded AMD bootlicker really understands about the semiconductor industry, corporate industry and law, or just life in general it seems. And anyone who follows his pathetic lines of reasoning and agrees with him is just as fucking stupid.

11:37 AM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Tonus said...

The EU is going to be cautious in how it handles the case, because they don't want foreign investment to suffer. Think about it, if they were to levy heavy fines and confiscate property, would you be willing to open up a factory or even a corporate office in Europe?

The EU wants companies to play along with a set of rules, but they are not going to cut off their own nose to spite their faces.

12:08 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Christian M. Howell said...

Some of us just hate you name-callers. It seems like you can't take the heat so get out of the kitchen.

I could be right all day but I wouldn't lower myself to name-calling.

Why does what Sharikou says bother you so much? Do you work for Intel?

12:11 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

which in all honestly I don't know what they hold in the EU

I think the main asset Intel owns in the EU is the 300mm/65nm fab in Ireland.

I said in another thread - Microsoft, who has a CASH RESERVE OF 49 BILLION

It's not quite that huge, but it's still massive. About $23bnn in cash and short term assets according to MS:

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY07/earn_rel_q4_07.mspx#Balance

At once stage MS had over $50bn in cash. But then they gave out that massive $30bn dividend.

You can see Intel's assets and cash here: http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/10/101302/2007Q3IntelEarningsReleaseFinal_2.pdf

It appears to be a bit over $10bn.

MS has it easy with the cash. Intel might rake it in, but they spends billions on the fabs and technology.


BTW, see this cool Intel video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI5GCsZCgeo

They talk about the process technology a bit, and some the machines that are used in a fab. It's quite interesting.

12:14 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

Baronfucktard mumbled something....

If you hate name-callers so much then here's a clue - go the fuck away you whiny little piss-ant...you've been right about the same percentage as this asshat.

Sharikou is a fraud. Period. I hate frauds, I hate liars, and I hate douchebags in general. It's a free country and if I choose to abuse a lying piece of shit like Sharifuck what business is it of yours? Don't like it? Then take a fucking hike and go play somewhere else. Actually PLEASE go somewhere else - AMDzone perhaps, as you'd fit right in with that crowd.

12:39 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger netrama said...

Why does what Sharikou says bother you so much? Do you work for Intel?
I too wonder ...whats up with these haters , they show up here as a hunting pack , with the only intent of name calling and insults..some of them claim to be sysadmins..pretty funny ...

12:59 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

Some of you claim intelligence which I find funnier.

1:06 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Rodney said...

Oh stop taking up for Sharikou... that's just not right. He rarely speaks in complete, coherent sentences and his thoughts are never logical or based in reality. More and more of his "proof" relies on customer testimonials from NewEgg and broken links. At this point he's a joke... but a damned funny one! That's why I keep coming back.

1:26 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Evil_Merlin said...

People who work at Intel laugh at Sharikou, they laugh at the shit that he posts, they laugh at his blindly devoted fanbois.

They laugh at the fact that Shairkou couldn't keep his job at Intel because he couldn't figure out how to use the broom and the mop.

1:57 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Evil_Merlin said...

Some of the AMD fanbois also claim Sharikou is accurate in his postings, that Barcelona can't be touched by Intel processors, that AMD could buy out Nvidia and put the hurting to Intel, that Intel's CPU's are nothing more than glued together Pentium III's, that Intel will be BK in Q2 08, oh wait Sharikou changed that to Q1 09... and will change it again to 2020 or something like that shorly, or the claim that the 2900 video card doesnt use near as much power as the 8800 series. They make claims that erratum are horrible for Intel and proves that Intel makes a bad cpu, but totally ignore the fact that AMD's erratum lists are longer than Intel's and contain some errors that are quite a bit more serious than Intel's in some instances.

its rather funny that anyone attempts to defend him.

2:20 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger DrPizza said...

If the EU is going after companies for dumping, I would imagine that they're going after American companies because I would imagine that EU anti-dumping law is similar to US anti-dumping law. The US can't prosecute US companies for dumping, because it's only dumping when it's a foreign company. Domestic companies can't dump (by definition), so can't be prosecuted.

In any case, selling below cost is not in and of itself dumping, and there are perfectly sound reasons to sell at below cost that have nothing to do with being anti-competitive.

2:33 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

OMG the retard posted the same inane bullshit that he did in the other thread...

...what...

...a...

...fucking...

...MORON....

2:39 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger GutterRat said...

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2:50 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger GutterRat said...

evil_merlin wrote,

People who work at Intel laugh at Sharikou (sic), they laugh at the shit that he posts, they laugh at his blindly devoted fanbois.

They laugh at the fact that Shairkou couldn't keep his job at Intel because he couldn't figure out how to use the broom and the mop.


In all fairness, the broom and the mop most likely objected to being handled by Sharikou as they figured his hands are often busy alternating between abinstein and christian the shiny silver phallus..

ROFLMAO

2:52 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Evil_Merlin said...

I swear every post he makes he drops a few more IQ points. But I'm getting worried as there isn't a level defined under profound mental retardation .

3:11 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger GutterRat said...

Rumor has it that Phenom is scheduled to debut at 2.2 and 2.4GHz, but for all intents and purposes, Phenom is simply a re-badged Barcelona. If AMD can't deliver 2GHz parts in-channel six weeks after launching Barcelona, there doesn't seem to be much reason to expect the company will be able to launch 2.2GHz+ chips in wide availability anytime soon. Paper launching would look particularly bad for AMD at this point, given that Intel's own 45nm launch is imminent, with parts expected to be on the shelf within days of the launch event.

ars technica

AMD BK 2Q'08

ROFLMAO

3:15 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger yomamafor2 said...

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3:28 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Christian M. Howell said...

Baronfucktard mumbled something....

If you hate name-callers so much then here's a clue - go the fuck away you whiny little piss-ant...you've been right about the same percentage as this asshat.


If you go back a few posts I posted my address. Come talk shit in my face and see if you leave under your own power.

I don't defend Sharikou. He makes me sick with this BK talk. I defend AMDs right to compete in the world CPU market.

If you don't like it, SO THE FUCK WHAT.

4:33 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Alex said...

Baron_silver_puss:

Just go away ... dont let the door hit your stupid ass on your way out.
Most people here are "sort" of sane BUT if you were stupid enough to leave your "real" address on www then you might actually get raped by few AMD fan boys located at www.amdzone.com which includes frankenstein and the self appointed moron sci-idiot.
Even that fake plastic dick-hat wont help you then. .... I am sure stein is getting ready boy :P
Lets see if Taliban tri core PC can youtube that chase!!!!

What a moron.

6:28 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

Please - like I said in an earlier post you aren't worth the price of a plane ticket out that way junior, so go talk your ethug bullshit elsewhere.

I notice this is the *only* place you talk your retarded shit...wonder why that is? Maybe it's because, as I've stated in the past, you've been owned and proven to be a top-rank moron, only outdone by Sharifuck himself, so many times, the only places that tolerate you are here and the other AMD cockgobbler sites.

So, as I stated before as well, talk your ethug crap to someone else, preferably somewhere else, I have better things to do with my time than watching you attempt to insult people - you aren't worth the effort...you know that wet spot underneith cowshit? That's a spot I had once said was sharidouche, turns out its you, and not worth my notice any longer.

Walk on little boy...

7:13 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Evil_Merlin said...

AMD SLAMMED BY ASUS

Their CPU 2002-2006 product performance was better. Since mid 2006 we feel Intel regained the lead. Departure of top executives is a big challenge for AMD, in my opinion. Our concern is also the combination of no product leadership with reduced volumes. There seems to be no clear near-term strategy how to win back the lead.

Last October they had processor shortage for the whole quarter. Vendors, including Asus, were forced to switch to Intel even further. The same shortage repeated this last quarter with ATI GPUs. Finally, they suddenly changed their focus to top tier vendors from us, the OEMs. I feel the relationship has not yet reached the required stability for consistent business.

Also, we are concerned about their continuous one generation process technology lag behind Intel, while the on board memory controller and interconnects will be anyway matched by Intel during next year. However, I feel that the 2009 Fusion is a great chance for AMD to succeed with integrated processor and GPU approach.

7:35 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger yomamafor2 said...

BaronFudrix
I could be right all day but I wouldn't lower myself to name-calling.

You sure you want to maintain that statement Baron?

Tell me again Baron, why were you temporarily banned from THGF?

Just a recent one: You're a dependent child who needs AMD to have bad yield

I can dig up a lot more (understatement) if you like though. What a hypocrite.

8:06 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Evil_Merlin said...

Hahaha! Howell just got owned!

8:42 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Jeach! said...

Otellini is a big cry BABY!

Scared now is he? This is pure propaganda to start a rally of American vs. European in order to put pressure on the Commission.

It won't work! Get that check ready Otellini and don't bother writting $3.2 Billion on it, make it out for a clean $5 Billion.

"Intel's Otellini accuses the EU of being anti-American"... and who isn't these days (politics, economy, currency, Wall St... the list is long)!!!

9:27 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...


Scared now is he? This is pure propaganda to start a rally of American vs. European in order to put pressure on the Commission.


What kind of BS is that? We've seen the EU just likes to go after successful American companies. Companies that have truly changed the world with something revolutionary like the micro-processor or the iPod, or Windows. Of course, AMD has done nothing of this nature. They just follow in the footsteps of others. They always have and always will. Pathetic.



It won't work! Get that check ready Otellini and don't bother writting $3.2 Billion on it, make it out for a clean $5 Billion.


We've already seen MS's record fine, and they are bigger than Intel. Fine size will not exceed $500M even if Intel is found guilty. Of course, Intel has $12.5bn in the bank right now. Any EU fine would be a drop in the bucket. With Intel earning $1.9bn in the last quarter alone.

What did AMD earn? A $396M loss! INTEL PROFITS UP 64%. AMD PROFITS DOWN 400%!

AMD BK by Q2'08.

9:45 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger GutterRat said...

jeach! wrote,

Otellini is a big cry BABY!

Yeah...right...

AMD launches Intel-slandering website

AMD’s Barcelona benchmarks: Omissions and disclosure matter

So many examples, so little time...

LOL

9:48 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

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9:49 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

Otellini is a big cry BABY!

Compared to who??? HECTOR RUIZ?!

"INTEL IS A MONOPOLY!" "Intel charges too much for CPUs resulting in higher prices for consumers and monopoly profits for Intel!" "

"Errr... ah... I mean.... INTEL is selling CPUs below cost while still magically posting profit, sending AMD out of business!"

It reminds me of AMD's legal complaint against intel. AMD complains that Intel offers rebates, and incentives to do business with Intel. But in the very same document they admit to doing the very same thing. e.g. giving Compaq a million free CPUs to do more business with AMD.

While Otellini gets on driving Intel to new record highs in revenue and profits, with awesome new stuff like the 45nm HK/MG AMD sits around whining at Intel. Truly pathetic.

AMD BK by Q2'08.<

9:53 PM, October 24, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

Intel leads the world in process technologies with the most advanced fabs:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/25/intel-brings-chips-desert

All AMD has is FAB30 and FAB36. FAB30 is old 200mm and only 90nm while yields at FAB36 are only 30% with only 2.6Ghz dual core or 2Ghz quad core.

AMD BK by Q2'08.

12:38 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Jonathan said...

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12:51 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Jonathan said...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=162638

AMD BK Q2'08

Good day to you sir.

12:53 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Christian M. Howell said...

Just a recent one: You're a dependent child who needs AMD to have bad yield

That's an accurate description of your personality and posting patterns.

If you know I was banned then you should know why. Saying "dependent child" is NOT the same a "Baron FuckTard" is it?

It's just the same old BS with a bunch of people who live in the past.

Gone are the days of Intel being alone at the party. Gone are the days when people take shit off of cowards like you.

I will continue to voice my opinion wherever I choose. This is still a free country.


Baron_silver_puss:

Just go away ... dont let the door hit your stupid ass on your way out.
Most people here are "sort" of sane BUT if you were stupid enough to leave your "real" address on www then you might actually get raped by few AMD fan boys located at www.amdzone.com which includes frankenstein and the self appointed moron sci-idiot.
Even that fake plastic dick-hat wont help you then. .... I am sure stein is getting ready boy :P
Lets see if Taliban tri core PC can youtube that chase!!!!

What a moron.




See? Only a little bitch hoping to make a person feel bad does things like that. I have no feelings.

And yes it is my REAL ADDRESS. It's not my SS# dumb ass. I have nothing to hide.

8:27 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Christian M. Howell said...

Intel leads the world in process technologies with the most advanced fabs:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/25/intel-brings-chips-desert

All AMD has is FAB30 and FAB36. FAB30 is old 200mm and only 90nm while yields at FAB36 are only 30% with only 2.6Ghz dual core or 2Ghz quad core.

AMD BK by Q2'08.




See, you sound like a little kid saying "my dad can beat up your dad."

PATHETIC!!!


I don't hope either company goes out of business. Suppose someone wished your gay porn company went out of business because you were jealous?

And to the asshole who says he sells PCs, I guess I wouldn't want my customers to know I was such an asshole either.

Continue operating anonymously.

8:31 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Evil_Merlin said...

If your illustrious leader begs and prays for the end of Intel, whats wrong with some people making the claims that AMD will be BK in 2008?

I mean lets get real here folks, AMD isn't exactly winning hearts and minds any more, and they sure as hell ain't winning any investors.


Never the less, seeing AMD or Intel go out of business or BK would be horrible for all of us.

9:09 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger GutterRat said...

christian, the shiny silver phallus, wrote in response to giant's post,

I don't hope either company goes out of business. Suppose someone wished your gay porn company went out of business because you were jealous?

There's nothing wrong with being the owner of a gay porn company.

I mean, why would you want to bite the hand that feeds you, eh?

Isn't it enough that you are given an opportunity to 'act out' you 'screenplays' in a non-threatening environment and be seen around the world in your shiny outfit?

Sheesh!

ROFLMAO

9:44 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Only AMD said...

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10:07 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Only AMD said...

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10:11 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Only AMD said...

If this is true then we have a different PR coming now from both companies...

Compilers helped AMD to 2.5GHz Opteron scores.

Also something to make you smile..

Intel's Otellini accuses the EU of being anti-American.
Only (corrupt) successful US companies regulated.

10:16 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Evil_Merlin said...

More bad news for AMD


CHIPZILLA is opening a $3 billion factory in Arizona which will churn out the new 45 nanometre chips by Christmas.

Intel and rivals AMD currently make their most advanced chips on 65-nanometre technology, and both companies are spending heavily to outfit their factories with the cutting-edge equipment and technologies needed to make 45-nanometre chips.

However it looks like Intel is at least six months ahead of AMD as it has opened the new million-square-foot factory, with more than 1,000 workers.

According to AP the plant will have chips out in November.

Intel wants to spend up to $8 billion on upgrading or building factories for 45-nanometre chips.

That figure includes the Arizona factory, up to $3.5 billion for a new factory in Kiryat Gat, Israel and $1.5 billion to retool an existing facility in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, both of which are to open next year.

10:34 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

So lets see - Intel's gonna BK in a year or so and to combat this they're ....OPENING NEW FABS! Ones that, according to the mental midget running this blog, AMD will get in a summary judgement of 60+ billion dollars and all of Intel's assets...

Can someone please explain to me how in the holy fucking hell these AMD zealots seem to think this is even plausible????

Nevermind don't - I need my daily fill of laughter which this site so readily provides - so don't explain it, it'll ruin my fun...

10:55 AM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Hornet331 said...

Spaztic Pizza you forgot to mention that they own the fabs, but without the workers... lol so they are quite useless... or maybe amds personal can magicaly multiplay and can works with tech that they eve ndont understand. *rofl*

2:41 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Chuckula said...

HAPPY Birthday to DAMMIT!

Yes, as Sparks pointed out over on a real blog today is the 1 year anniversary of the shotgun marriage from hell known as DAMMIT.

I find it kind of interesting that shariKKKou couldn't be bothered to post anything on this auspicious day. Maybe he's too busy blaming Intel for all of his problems in life and is afraid that AMD's Halloween is going to be a trick not a treat.

Anyway, since Hector made his brilliant move to pay way too much for ATI and then intentionally drive out all the competent people in order to replace them with his cronies from Motorola who were all unemployed after driving that company into the ground, the new DAMMIT has managed to lose a cool $1.8 BILLION.
But it doesn't end there! Those are only operating losses, the overall net worth of both companies was $21 Billion last year, now it's down to a cool $7 Billion.... Talk about Progress!!

I think I finally understand what Abinnazi, ShariKKKou, and one_goatfucker go on about when they discuss "asset light"... it means:
1. Hector pisses away all of AMD's assets, and
2. Hector runs up a mountain of debt while cutting himself and his Motorola pals fat checks from AMD's carcass...
.. Brilliant!

3:50 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

Hector will just clone himself and run the fabs himself...didn't you know they have that technology too...???

3:51 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger abinstein said...

Why do Intel fans consistently have bad manners and resort to personal insults? That really speaks a lot about the quality of this bunch of figures!

I respect tonus, netrama, jeach, and Only AMD for making rational comments in the midst of such madness. Christian.. I feel sorry for you, but that's the price of fighting with dogs - you inevitably get bitten and have to resort to something as primitive as whips.

All the others... all the others, why do you act like copies of some toy model that does nothing but talking nonsense and insults? I don't feel sorry for you, but your children (if any)! Won't they feel ashamed if they knew their parents ever talk like this?

6:17 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Intel Fanboi said...

Abinstein said:

"Christian.. I feel sorry for you"

For once I totally agree with Abinstein :-)

7:12 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Spaztic Pizza said...

Why does Abinstein act like he knows anyting about the semiconductor industry? Probably the same reason Sharibitch claims to have a ph.d...they weren't breastfed as babies and they like to lie a lot...

7:23 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Intel Fanboi said...

Abinstein wrote:
"Why do Intel fans consistently have bad manners and resort to personal insults?"

I think Abinstein would be better off if he worried more about his own motivations and lack of manners than those of others. Anyone who wants insight into Abinstein's mental instability can read Abinstein attacking someone worried about losing his job. Make sure to read the follow-up posts by the other members of AMD Zone.

7:36 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Intel Fanboi said...

Christian said:
"If you go back a few posts I posted my address."

Another wild goose chase.

7:41 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Intel Fanboi said...

Spaztic Pizza said:
"Why does Abinstein act like he knows anything about the semiconductor industry? Probably the same reason Sharibitch claims to have a ph.d"

It looks like all that research the FBI did in creating psychological profiles of criminals was time well spent. Sharikou claims to be a Ph.D., Christian Howell claims to be a software architect, and Abinstein just claims to be an expert on everything. All three have made racist and/or homophobic remarks. Each one likes to create fantasy scenarios and conspiracy theories. Patterns....

7:54 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Alex said...

"See? Only a little bitch hoping to make a person feel bad does things like that. I have no feelings.

And yes it is my REAL ADDRESS. It's not my SS# dumb ass. I have nothing to hide."

You still dont get it do you silver idiot?
Not that anybody would waste a penny driving down there kicking ur lame fired arse. BUT ones in a while you find the real crazy ones ... so happy watching behind your back .....
Feelings you do have ... for your beloved AMD ....
wasting my tim e talking to doorknob .... a stupid one indeed.

8:31 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger pezal said...

Sharikou claims to be a Ph.D., Christian Howell claims to be a software architect, and Abinstein just claims to be an expert on everything.

and dont forget also to include spaztic pizza which claims himself as a stupid talking pizza boy, merlin claims himself the evil of porns, giant claiming itself stupid green shrek, gutter claims himself a little hopeless rat and yourself as an Intel fantastic dumbest boy.. ;-)

9:10 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Intel Fanboi said...

Pezal, That was actually funny!

9:12 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Chuckula said...

Hey Abinstein & Pezal, here is what an actually rational AMD guy who (unlike you idiots) wants AMD to succeed had to say:

I'll make it brief. (Wasting time on idiots is not my favorite past-time)
I've been a member of AMDZone since July 1999. By reading your post, one can only assume that you were still wetting your diapers back then.
Thus far I've directly and/or indirectly (Read: my previous/current employers) bought ~400 Athlon XP/MP CPUs and anywhere between 150-300 Opteron CPUs. (Educated guess)

I (and my close family) personally owned:
- 1 AMD K5 machine.
- 2 AMD K6 machines.
- 1 AMD Athlon SlotA machine.
- 4 Athlon XP/Duron machines.
- 3 dual Athlon MP (2 used modified XPs) machines.
- 1 Athlon64/s754 machine.
- 1 Athlon64/s939 machine.
- 1 Athlon64X2/s939 machine.
- 1 Athlon64X2/AM2 machine.
- 2 dual Opteron/s940 machines.

In my house, I currently have:
- 2 Dual Opteron machines (248, 270).
- 1 Athlon64 (754) machine.
- 2 AthlonXP machines.
- 1 Athlon SlotA machine.
- 1 AMD K6 machine.

Have you bothered to use this site's search buttons, or God forbids, use Google [1] before going on a rampage, you would have known how ludicrous your accusations are.
However, using the search options is what grown-ups do. 5 years olds just throw the term FUD every 3 or 4 sentences and call it the day.

As for answering your/Moli question - have you bothered to follow my link you would have seen that Intel has Linux certified servers on its own.
... But that was far to complicated for you, right?

Seriously, are you for real?

Gilboa from AMDzone

9:15 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

I think abinstein just likes arguing with people. He's arguing and attacking other AMD supporters now? That's just low.

and for pezal. Couldn't you find even a modicum of pro AMD news today?

11:03 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Louis said...

The 'Douche wrote:
"Hector's asset-lite strategy will kick-in in 2009."

Is this a new strategy that will replace the old "profit-lite strategy"? :-)

I think asset lite isn't so much a strategy as much as a realization that the competition is kicking AMD's ass and they can't afford to stay on the chip fab treadmill.

11:45 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Louis said...

Christian M. Janitor wrote:

"Why does what Sharidouche says bother you so much? Do you work for Intel?"

Answers below...
1) Sharidouche lies
2) Sharidouche is a fraud.
3) Sharidouche lies more.
4) Sharidouche is stupid.
5) Sharidouche pretends to know more than anyone else but doesn't (see 4)
6) Sharidouche can't face reality.
7) Sharidouche makes ridiculous predictions and is incapable of admitting he is wrong.
8) Sharidouche is a wanker.
9) No.

Does that about cover it?

11:51 PM, October 25, 2007  
Blogger Louis said...

Christian M. Janitor wrote:
"I defend AMDs right to compete in the world CPU market."

Your defense of AMD's rights notwithstanding, Hector Ruiz needs to defend AMD's right to compete in the CPU market. I think they are hoping for a miracle with all their inane lawsuits. Not exactly a winning strategy. More like a whining strategy.

12:00 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Alex said...

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12:41 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Rodney said...

Hey! Where's the comment/story about Intel's 2nd 45nm fab coming online? Oh, that's right... no reason to cover some story about glued together Pentium 3s.

5:12 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger abinstein said...

Intel fanboi...
"For once I totally agree with Abinstein :-)"

You are cutting a sentence out of my paragraph. Don't leave out the "fight with dogs" part.

" Abinstein attacking someone worried about losing his job."

You are just a FUDer as always - and why am I not surprised that Intel supporters also consistently show lack of reading skill and ability to make FUDs?

There is no reason nor prospect for anyone there to lose his job, and thus I certainly did not "attack" anything - go read the link and you see nowhere near the attacking or insulting quality any one of you attain in the comments here.

I only argue against nonsense. I have no motivation or hidden agenda like you apparently do, and I do not take side of fanboism.

But of course that might be something that you cannot comprehend. In that case I feel sorry for you, too (and hopefully you'll also agree?)

9:09 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Only AMD said...

Microsoft's OneCare silently changes Automatic Updates!!!

9:23 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Rodney said...

Only AMD,

Are you surprised by that? I Googled what you typed and there are tons of articles on the net about that... so yes, it IS news (technically) but is it really that surprising?

As for me, I'll stick with Linux for now.

9:30 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger abinstein said...

chuckula -
"Hey Abinstein & Pezal, here is what an actually rational AMD guy who (unlike you idiots) wants AMD to succeed had to say"

What he says is flawed. How many AMD systems he owns or operates has nothing to do with how accurate his claims are. I (and others) pointed out a few obvious inaccuracies, which he didn't fully respond but sadly focused on the part that I call him "cover busted."

Anyway, what happens there also has nothing to do with what I observed, that Intel fans consistently show insulting & attacking personalities everywhere. Many of you also need to improve your reading and logic reasoning skills, IMHO.

9:32 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

In other news, Intel has opened the world's most advanced production FAB in Arizona cranking out all the 45nm CPUs with the revolutionary HK/MG technology.

Yorkfield in less than three weeks, and produced right here in the USA!

10:19 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger terry said...

the reason why intel fanbois make personal insult towards other bcoz they are in an emotional unstable state. during this stage their brain refuse to transmit signal throughout the body. the indication will shown as a spastic behavoiur which last for several miliseconds to several days depend on the severity. another indication are enormous physical growth becoz of tyroid gland failure which release excessive amounts of iodine into the bloodstream. although their physical size is huge, their intelligence is no more higher than average human knees. the symptoms is found that they are aroused by the blue circle around a few letters at their pc casing. and at the same time they experience illusional effect by alternate overlapping of green colours onto the image. the efects is a brain fatigue among intel fanbois which result failure use of their own brain in ethical manners.

10:44 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Jeach! said...

Alex wrote...
Right? .. dont forget that that "right aka x86" was patented BY Intel .. Intel owns it .. AMD is just leasing it .... (sort of) until they go KABOOM!!!


I understand your point, but most of other Intel fanatics seem to be putting too much value into this "Intel owns x86" point of view!!

Don't forget that Intel... that's right INTEL signed the little dotted line when IBM requested them to.

If it wouldn't have been for IBM's license request, or Intel would not have signed the license agreement, then there would be no Intel today!

What I don't understand is why most of you can't put as much value into THAT part of history? Why you keep coming up with the excuse that AMD copied and they are only copiers, etc, etc.

If I give you $5 Million to 'borrow' the house you design and built for 25 years, I wouldn't expect to see you, your supporters and half your family standing on my street with signs and chants about how 'I didn't build it' so I don't deserve to be there!

Besides Intel has barely contributed any 'original' technology to x86 since they signed the deal with AMD. Most of it is either legally licensed from a third party, given to them on a silver platter (like how they swallowed Alpha) or in most cases outright stolen from their competitors. Due to their size they know they can get away with it.

How many times have you seen a headline entitled:

"Intel pays $X00 million to settle patent case against XYZ Corp."

The only reason Intel has paid is because they know they are going to loose and the only reason XYZ accepted is because they were painted into a wall.

11:41 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Christian M. Howell said...

It looks like all that research the FBI did in creating psychological profiles of criminals was time well spent. Sharikou claims to be a Ph.D., Christian Howell claims to be a software architect, and Abinstein just claims to be an expert on everything. All three have made racist and/or homophobic remarks. Each one likes to create fantasy scenarios and conspiracy theories. Patterns....



I don't claim anything. I am a licensed Mechanical Engineer who took up SW test, then SW programming.

I haven't made any homophobic or racist remarks. I don't need conspiracy theories, I have S Korea, Japan and now the EU to come up with those.


I notice how you missed the names your "butties" throw out constantly. But I guess that's OK since they're saying Intel can do no wrong.

11:49 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Christian M. Howell said...

Christian said:
"If you go back a few posts I posted my address."

Another wild goose chase.



Go to the Nehalem copycat post. It's right there. No reason to lie.

ANd just so you know I hope you do come around it's

435 Jefferson Ave #1
Brooklyn NY 11221

You think someone can steal my identity with my address?

11:58 AM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Christian M. Howell said...

Louis said...

Christian M. Janitor wrote:

"Why does what Sharidouche says bother you so much? Do you work for Intel?"



I've worked really hard to NEVER do manual labor. Such an insult would do you physical harm in my presence. You insult me from behind your computer screen and I'm the e-thug or whatever?

Like I said, you have some issues. Unfortunately I'm not a shrink so all I can do is let you know I am not having it.

12:02 PM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

Intel Opens First High-Volume 45nm Microprocessor Manufacturing Factory
New $3 Billion Facility to Produce Processors with Intel 45nm Hafnium-based High-k Metal Gate Transistors


CHANDLER, Ariz., Oct. 25, 2007 – Production of a new generation of microprocessors for PCs, laptops, servers and other computing devices officially began today inside of Intel Corporation's first high-volume 45 nanometer (nm) manufacturing factory in Chandler, Ariz.

Called "Fab 32," the $3 billion factory will use Intel's innovative 45nm process technology based on Intel's breakthrough in "reinventing" certain areas of the transistors inside its processors to reduce energy leakage. The 45nm transistors use a Hafnium-based high-k material for the gate dielectric and metal materials for the gate, and are so small that more than 2 million can fit on the period at the end of this sentence. Millions of these tiny transistors will make up Intel's faster, more energy efficient lead- and halogen-free processors for PCs, laptops and servers, as well as ultra low-power processors for mobile Internet and consumer electronic devices, and low-cost PCs. The first of the company's 45nm processors is scheduled to be introduced on Nov. 12.

"The opening of Fab 32 in Arizona today is a testament to Intel's continued investment in our most strategic asset -- the most advanced, environmentally friendly manufacturing network in the world," said Paul Otellini, Intel president and CEO. "The magic of 45nm and our new transistor design allow us to deliver high-performance, energy-efficient processors to our customers across the entire spectrum of market segments, from the most powerful servers to a variety of mobile devices and everything in between."

Fab 32 is Intel's sixth 300mm wafer factory and its second factory to produce 45nm chips. Intel first produced 45nm processors in its Oregon development facility, called D1D, in January and is now moving into high-volume production with the opening of Fab 32. Two additional 45nm, 300mm manufacturing factories are scheduled to open next year in Kiryat Gat, Israel (Fab 28) and Rio Rancho, N.M. (Fab 11x). Using 300mm wafers lowers the production cost per chip while diminishing overall use of resources.

With 184,000 square feet of clean room space, the completed Fab 32 structure measures 1 million square feet, so large that more than 17 U.S. football fields could fit inside the building. More than 1,000 employees will operate the factory in such positions as process, automation and yield engineers and senior manufacturing technicians.

A Focus on the Environment – From the Factory Down to the Transistor
Fab 32 will be among Intel's most environmentally friendly factories, incorporating a number of energy and water conservation measures that have come to characterize Intel's long track record of environmental stewardship in its operations.

Intel's industry-leading 45nm process results in a 15 percent reduction in global warming emissions, and Fab 32 makes use of Intel Arizona's innovative water conservation and reuse program which conserves more than 70 percent of the water.

The company also announced that it intends to seek certification for the new fab as the company's first official Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) factory based on new criteria being developed for facilities of this kind. LEED is a green building rating system developed by the U.S. Green Building Council that provides a set of standards for environmentally sustainable construction and requires several months of operating data before certification can be completed. The certification would demonstrate that Fab 32 meets the highest environmental standards and reflects Intel's history of commitment to environmental leadership.

Only Intel is delivering next generation 45nm CPUs in less than three weeks with revolutionary new transistor technology that is produced all right here in the USA.

BUY Intel hi performance, energy saving, low cost, state of the art 45nm HK/MG, made right here in the USA, cpus, platforms, and video solutions.

12:05 PM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

Damn. I am unworthy of posting like oneexpert. I missed this gem.

A Focus on the Environment – From the Factory Down to the Transistor
Fab 32 will be among Intel's most environmentally friendly factories, incorporating a number of energy and water conservation measures that have come to characterize Intel's long track record of environmental stewardship in its operations.

Intel's industry-leading 45nm process results in a 15 percent reduction in global warming emissions, and Fab 32 makes use of Intel Arizona's innovative water conservation and reuse program which conserves more than 70 percent of the water.

The company also announced that it intends to seek certification for the new fab as the company's first official Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) factory based on new criteria being developed for facilities of this kind. LEED is a green building rating system developed by the U.S. Green Building Council that provides a set of standards for environmentally sustainable construction and requires several months of operating data before certification can be completed. The certification would demonstrate that Fab 32 meets the highest environmental standards and reflects Intel's history of commitment to environmental leadership.

HELP SAVE OUR PLANET, BUY INTEL CPUs that help REDUCE GLOBAL WARMING EMISSIONS. DON'T BUY AMD CPUS that are full of LEAD AND MERCURY and other hazardous materials! AMD FABS make up 5% of total pollution in the entire earth!


BUY Intel hi performance, energy saving, low cost, state of the art 45nm HK/MG, made right here in the USA, cpus, platforms, and video solutions.


(P.S. Yes, there is plenty of BS in that post, but I had to emulate oneexpert's posting style as closely as possible!)

12:10 PM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

You think someone can steal my identity with my address?

No. But posting you address on the Internet is still a pretty silly thing to do.

Maybe you don't value your anonymity on the Internet, but some of us do.

If anyone thinks that the tripe I post here (i.e. the direct opposite of Sharikou, Oneexpert etc.) is representative of who I am in real life I'd be really worried.

The only reason Intel has paid is because they know they are going to loose and the only reason XYZ accepted is because they were painted into a wall.

That's funny. I seem to recall AMD being sued by SGI, Opti Inc and MicroUnity for patent infringement.

AMD is irellivant now. They've proven that they can't keep up with Intel. AMD's new architecture is slower than Intel's existing architecture. That's AMD 'progress' for you. More AMD progress is Ruiz wiping off $14Bn of shareholder value in one year! A year ago DAAMIT was worth $21bn. Now they're worth a mere third of that, or $7bn.


Thanks to Ruiz's incompetent management, over the last four quarters AMD has lost in excess of $2bn. During that same time Intel has raked in $6.4bn in profit even while spending billions on the new 45nm fabs.

According to 'reliable sources' AMD will BK by Q4'07. Oops I mean Q2'08. Scratch that, AMD BK by Q1'09! Ah, the hell with it. AMD BK by Q1'2109! Now I've got another 100 years to come up with BK predictions. That should do for now.

12:18 PM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger Bubba said...

435 Jefferson Ave #1
Brooklyn NY 11221


I used to work at 600 Lafayette.

It was a horrible, shitty neiborhood 20 years ago. I can't imagine how bad it is now.

I wouldn't advertise that I actually live there.

1:25 PM, October 26, 2007  
Blogger GutterRat said...

christian, the shiny silver phallus, wrote,

I am a licensed Mechanical Engineer who took up SW test, then SW programming.

SW test...and failed per my MSFT contacts.

I haven't made any homophobic or racist remarks.

That's a lie.

6:09 PM, October 26, 2007  

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