Wednesday, September 27, 2006

Pat Gelsinger's anger and hatred


"I hate AMD", Pat Gelsinger slowly typed the password into his bank account, and looked at the value of his options.

Without AMD, his stock options would worth $50 million.
Now, they worth zero.

He would be lucky if he had a job next year.

I laughed out loud when reading this.

BTW: China's second largest PC maker signed up with AMD in a big way. I told you Conroe would fatally wound Intel.

PS: The image above is a derivative work of INQ's photos, hope they don't sue this Journal for statutory damages. This is fair use.

60 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/09/25/amd_idf-2006/
Oh yes, because AMD is much more mature than Intel;)

4:49 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

Oh yes, because AMD is much more mature than Intel;)


At least AMD is more creative.

4:53 PM, September 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I disagree, the "___ For Dummies" mantra is tired. Intel is being a cold hard bitch with "I hate AMD!!!"

5:06 PM, September 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The comment was a joke. They were doing a demonstration of security and pretending to "crack" into his password.

Considering how much you hate Intel Sharikou, and considering how AMD talks about Intel in the press all the time, this blog entry is sort of hypocritic.

6:28 PM, September 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is unethical for presentation to do such comment when he can just simply say something appropriate. I bet lots of people who see this laugh at him.

7:37 PM, September 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yo Dr PhD pretender...

Your are so jealous.. don't you wish you had Pat's job.. he makes a 7 figure salary or more, is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. I think the least of his worries is how much or little his stock options are worth. SUre if the stock was 60 he and a lot of INTEL employees would be millions richer.

The interesting is Pat works at a company where decisions they make make or break the world. AMD swings for the fences.. if they make the right call and INTEL the wrong they are ahead for a few years. If AMD swings for the fences and hits a homerun but INTEL executes then they will be last and still be sucking wind. If AMD swings for the fence and strikes out and INTEL executes AMD is no more.

You fanboys and non-intel employees are just so jealous that you don't work at INTEL. ANy AMD monkey would give his job up in a heartbeat to have the same and maybe even lower level job at INTEL.

That is the fact.. am I wrong. Take any person at any level tell me would you rather work at AMD or INTEL...

Too bad Dr pretender you couldn't get hired at either and you are blog from the outside. You don't know nothing about whats going on inside either company.. For such a die hard geek like you outsiders it must really suck to be an outsider.

Too bad.. you too incompetent to work at either company..

7:42 PM, September 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow, there's a lot of anger going on here. like childish behavior

8:41 PM, September 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the title subject of this particular blog, " Pat Gelsinger's anger and hatred"...

Replace "Pat Gelsinger" with the anonynmous dude who starts every one of his hateful replies with "YO Ph.D Pretender"...

And you see his hatred as well...

9:02 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

the anonynmous dude who starts every one of his hateful replies with "YO Ph.D Pretender"...


This dude is quite persistent. He never forgets to use that three words...LOL

9:16 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Marc said...

"
Yo Dr PhD pretender...
Your are so jealous.. [...]
"

What's the point of such a childish post ?

Anyway, I recently learned that AMD is going to replace their use of SRAM by Z-RAM in their Revision H processors (K8L) to implement the cache. Z-RAM offer 4-5 times the cell density (each bit requires 1 transistor instead of 6). This means Z-RAM is going to reduce the die size, increase the number of dies produced by silicon wafer, reduce the production cost and reduce the power consumption. AMD has licensed Z-RAM from the small company having developed it (Innovative Silicon). Unfortunately for Intel they can't adopt Z-RAM now because they would need to first migrate to SoI, which AMD has done a couple of years ago.

What does everybody think about Z-RAM ? I usually adopt a "wait-n-see" position about unreleased technology, but the more I learn about the internals of Rev H processors the more it looks like they are going to surpass Core 2 processors in every aspect.

9:41 PM, September 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This dude is quite persistent. He never forgets to use that three words...LOL"

Almost as persistant as you using ph.d (almost as if you believe that if you state it enough it may become reality).

10:11 PM, September 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It is unethical for presentation to do such comment"

Unethical? Or do you perhaps mean inappropriate? Please help us by out by telling us all how typing "I hate AMD" is unethical?

10:15 PM, September 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is the fact.. am I wrong. Take any person at any level tell me would you rather work at AMD or INTEL...

If I was a marketeer, Intel. Where else do you get to twist other people's arms? If I was an engineer, you can very well bet that I want to work at AMD and not have my arm twisted by the marketing department.

You don't know nothing about whats going on inside either company

Are you an exception? Where is your blog with 80% predictions coming true?

Too bad.. you too incompetent to work at either company..

Look! The kettle calling the pot black!

Every hardware site has for the last few years been complaining about what they see as engineers being manipulated by marketeers in Intel and you come ask which company a person would want to work for? I think the answer is rather obvious for the thousands that are/were layed off by Intel.

AMD made a fine chipset for its Opterons three years ago. When they get fully integrated with ATI, watch the fireworks fly!

11:02 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Kalle said...

"Z-RAM offer 4-5 times the cell density (each bit requires 1 transistor instead of 6)."

Problem is, Zram is also much slower than sram. It cannot compete with L1 cache and most likely with L2. Perhaps it can be used in L3 though

12:11 AM, September 28, 2006  
Blogger S said...

Sharikou, you totally lack sense of humor.

BTW, did u see the AMD lawsuit judge has set the trial date in 2009 ? Must have been influenced with ur prediction on Intel BK. Perhaps he is planning to take a holiday in that time frame.

So now where will AMD get its $15billion from ?

3:48 AM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ZRAM is also slower.

4:47 AM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does everybody think about Z-RAM ?
I think it will be a great thing. It is slow, but I think it would be perfect for a L3 cache, which is probably where it will be used, but it will give AMD the ability to make 2MB L3 caches nice and cheap, keep the die size down. Of course I've also heard that this is just another rumor. I guess we'll have to wait and see...

5:32 AM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question: Who does NOT hate AMD?

5:57 AM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should really look at INTELs stock price before shooting your mouth off.
Most of your predictions concerning Intels stock price have been way off.

7:13 AM, September 28, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

You should really look at INTELs stock price before shooting your mouth off.


expect crooks to engineer a ramp up, letting suckers hold the stock. the game of the street.

But Intel is heading to BK

8:07 AM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Graham said...

I love it.... passion about one's work is what gets us up in the morning and drives us to be creative. If Pat draws on his hatred of AMD so be it. If Intel getting mad at being challenged by AMD led to the undisputed (Sharikou and AMD fan boys not withstanding) leadership that is Core 2 Duo then more power to Intel. Thank God they are competing again instead of resting on their laurels. Thanks for posting this Sharikou. This makes me feel better about buying a chunk of Intel stock back in June. (a 20% rise since that time feels pretty good as well)

9:38 AM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Graham said...

Yo Dr. PhD Pretender (i kinda like the sound of it). I also like Sharifraud. Whatever. Maybe you do have a PhD maybe you don't. Who cares? Your blog tells me all I need to know about you.

So Gelsinger hates AMD. Guess what, I bet most Intel execs hate AMD and I bet most AMD execs hate Intel (something you should be able to understand since that seems to be your passion)

Anyway, whatever happened to your ambitious plan to setup benchmarking?

I guess you never got around to it since I don't ever see updates. My guess is that you don't have the technical capability to pull this off so you'll just sit around a bitch about how you hate Intel all day, every day and then criticise Pat Gelsinger when he very subtly expresses the same sentiment. Perhaps that's why you work for neither Intel or AMD?

You seem to be either a child or a psychopath Sharikou, because you spew hate every day for Intel but can't believe that there might be anyone who feels the opposite of you. Thank God for Sharikou180 to show just how Bizarro you really are.

Graham

9:51 AM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34722

Intel shows its true face and again claims an original idea from AMD is theirs..

Whats else can we say about Intel's monopolistic and abusive behavior?

10:06 AM, September 28, 2006  
Blogger 180 Sharikou said...

BTW - I did want to say I thought Pat's password (I hate AMD) was just childish and immature. It's ok to be competitive but it's another thing to behave like a 4 year old girl fighting in the school yard.

http://sharikou180.blogspot.com
(A more balanced point of view.)

10:41 AM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still can't understand how Intel has any supporters that are not on the payroll.

Is it because, until recently they charged more money for an inferior product?

Is it because they tried to force a new RAM standard on the world so that they could make even more money while rewarding an unethical company (Rambus).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambus

Is it because privacy groups & minority groups (GLAAD) beat up poor Intel over it's processor serial number scheme?

Prehaps they like the strong arm tactics that Intel uses with vendors to push Intel products? It may be good business for Intel, but is it anything a customer should admire?

Any ideas?

11:01 AM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Edward said...

It is a gesture of this Intel VP to show that he is not afraid of AMD, by typing out "I hate AMD" publicly. Yet another Intel's mind-affecting marketing tactics.

Who knows what he really feels? But he had to voluntarily defend Intel's MCM quad-core approach against AMD's native quad-core, and insist the former is "the right way to do quad-core in 65nm."

I think he is just scared that AMD's native quad-core 6 month later will make his company's then-4-month-old product obsolete.

11:12 AM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Core 2 CONROE Duo's life is short...with Intel playing Quad Core now..why would an moron Intel Fan boy.. buy a Dual Core ? That is unless Core 2 is sold like low end Semprons

1:53 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's desperation time for intel. i agree with the above poster. what's going to happen to core2duo or conroe when core2quadro or conroe2 comes out. all the intel fanboys will wet their pants and go out and buy quad core conroe so they can brag. intel think they're cool being first with everything, kentsfield, cloverton, and soon yorkfield or whatever the name is. what they need is a cpu that can sustain the same performance or hold a stick up to k8l when it's out in 6 months. it seems to me that amd is taking its sweet time because they know the performance of kentsfield or whatever quad core intel throws out. they know that their k8l will kick the crap out off intel's quad core. idf this year seems boring and nothing new to see or get excited about, move along.

2:33 PM, September 28, 2006  
Blogger Pop Catalin Sever said...

"I told you Conroe would fatally wound Intel."

Well unfortunately Conroe doesn't wound Intel, Netburst wich is still mass produced does. Conroe actualy helps Intel, it creates hype for Intel technolgy in the enthusiast market wich leads to Intel seling more in the mainstream due to the halo efect, just like Apple sells more macs because of iPod, as you said on Sharikou180's blog.

AMD needs some killer CPU in the enthusiast market fast, because it's the enthusiasts that lead the masses. The masses are usualy unable to make any kind thehnolgy analisys or calculate wich CPU is better, they simply ask what's the best CPU and the wast majority of enthusiasts answer Conroe. Only few have the smarts to take other factors into consideration like price/performance or upgradability.

If Otelini continues like this, pushing the limits in performance in the high it will make a bigger than before mith about Intel's peformance, wich btw was verry hard for AMD figh.

4:56 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey guys read this:
AMD shows off quad core 65 nanometre wafers


Very interesting. Can't wait for amd native quad core. :P

6:53 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sharikook, you need a brain transplant.

7:38 PM, September 28, 2006  
Blogger nyx said...

With the drop of AMD's stock price to roughly $ 25, it's time once again to buy in and buy in a big way. From $ 18 to $ 28, many of us made out quite well with options. Now that many of us sold on the slip, at a price of around $ 26 to $ 26 and a half, we managed to bail at a nice profit. Then waiting for a decent settle point, it seems that we MAY be seeing that at $ 24.90 to $ 25.10 right now. Now is the time to buy in. Another charge towards $ 27.50 is really going to pay off nice when you buy into options at a strike price of $ 27.50 or $ 30.00 right now. It also seems like many reputible analysts have raised estimates to $ 30 for AMD's stock price. Whether or not it reaches the $ 30 mark is irrelevant. The stock price has to only charge in the direction of the strike price to make a decent chunk of change. It seems that most of the sector acknowledges AMD's potential, yet the stock price has marginally slipped because of a few insignificant factors such as the negative news on AMD's court case against Intel and Intel's recent hype surrounding their Developer's Conference. The court case is meaningless in my opinion because AMD only wants to shine a spot light on Intel's past unscrupulous practices which it has done through the media, so at this point it doesn't matter who wins the actual case. People are aware of the unethical behaviour exhibited by Intel. The Developer's Conference held by Intel didn't really reveal anything revolutionary, but instead rehashed the same old garbage that Intel has been feeding us through their media outlets. So (in my opinion), AMD has taken an unnecessary slip in stock price because of jittery short term investors on edge and will soon turn around for yet another charge towards the $ 30 mark.
Naturally this is just my OPINION, but I can safely say that if anyone has read my previous posts in this blog concerning buyins to AMD will notice that I was right before.

AMD's 65nm processor line should be released soon sometime in October 2006 which is also very exciting. Of course their 65nm line MUST show a decent amount of improvement performance wise if we are to see an immediate injection of enthusiasm for AMD. Naturally their stock price will go up regardless, but a noticeable performance gain utilizing a 65nm process would catalyze a sudden stock price surge.

AMD is in the same healthy position that it was in before the price slip, nothing has changed as far as its direction and stance. So I believe the current price set to be unreasonably low.

8:22 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Hey guys read this:
AMD shows off quad core 65 nanometre wafers


Very interesting. Can't wait for amd native quad core. :P

6:53 PM, September 28, 2006

Rev H is a QUAD CORE NATIVE retard!
rev G will be k8l ( with double fp..SSE..etc..etc.. )

9:02 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If people keep asking Pat Gelsinger "Sir, is Intel-64 the Itanium-64 or AMD64?", he would eventually say "I hate Itanium".

Hahaha..

-Longan-

9:03 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yo you AMD fanboys and for the PhD pretender...

Some call me presistent... I am more here to balance the fake PhDer with some balance to his pontification.

For some reason he has a new fascination with Pat G's net stock option worth. What/why the sudden fascination with Pat's worthless stock. Was there nothing better to talk about.

How about AMD's sorry state in silicon technology

How about AMD's sorry state in dual-core / gaming benchmarks

How about comparing total shipped units of 65nm from AMD and INTEL

How about profit for AMD and INTEL this past quarter.

No.. the fascination has turned to things irrelevanat to the fact that AMD is in big trouble... The more the PhD pretender drifts from reality in any blog the more it is clear AMD is in trouble...

Months ago it was about benchmarks and power, something real.

Now the blog is about exploding batterys, Bankruptcy in a few quarters, and Pat's stock options.

That says it all!!

10:14 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I noticed in the IDF's "i hate amd" picture, at the lower left corner, there is a rack with waffers. That rack and waffers appears to be a tic-tac-toe game for those Intel executives!

Use that tic-tac-toe game board to figure out AMD's strategy...lol.

-Longan-

10:52 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Z-RAM offer 4-5 times the cell density (each bit requires 1 transistor instead of 6)."

There are numerous other embedded memory techniques (including some 1 transistor/1 capacitor cells) which also offer 4-5X density scaling and are slighlty better than ZRAM speeds, though still not fast enough for L1 cache, but potentially L2.

What it will come down to is process complexity/cost (I'm unfamiliar with the ZRAM flow so don't know how much added cost this is to the procss flow). Either way traditional 6T SRAM cell will stick around for level 1 (and possibly level 2 cache) due to it's superior read/write speeds compared to most other embedded memory.

11:21 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"BTW: China's second largest PC maker signed up with AMD in a big way"

Just wondering Sharikou why you didn't mention the VOLUME this "large" PC maker does.

Total 2005 market - 2.5Mil computers and are they going all AMD with these? The answer to this would be no as initially they are just doing desktop and not even that will be 100% AMD.

So if 50/50 on desktop this likely amounts to <1Mil in total chips/year.

Would be nice if you could put some of your splashy headlines in context! (BTW who's the #1 Chinese PC manufacturer buying their chips from and in what volume?)

11:27 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Very interesting. Can't wait for amd native quad core. :P"

Well unless you are buying server chips, it'll be end of 2007. (I think it is mid-2007 for server chips?)

11:30 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said:
"You fanboys and non-intel employees are just so jealous that you don't work at INTEL. ANy AMD monkey would give his job up in a heartbeat to have the same and maybe even lower level job at INTEL.

That is the fact.. am I wrong. Take any person at any level tell me would you rather work at AMD or INTEL... "

your an idiot to spout crap like that. do YOU work for intel...or even AMD?? HUH?? Show me or us the FACTS, jack!
I know people that work for either companies and guess who the unhappy workers are? your just another useless blogger who tries to sound "big" behind information from the misinformed.

11:46 PM, September 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone else read the report from a Korean IT press that kicked out their Woodcrest deployment?

Apparently, benchmarks ran fine (during the evaluation phase).. but in real-world applications, the machine overheated and just wasn't stable enough.

The Korean firm was a big AMD customer and their Opterons had and are still running fine. Intel had courted them aggressively, but now their whole deployment of Woodcrests is in jeopardy.

12:29 AM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

> Anonymous wrote:

> Did anyone else read the report from a Korean IT press that kicked out their Woodcrest deployment?

Link please.

With the win in the Chinese market, I see why AMD has been shrinking the cache from 1M to 512k/256k:

To increase the number of dies in order to supply the new Chinese market win!

-Longan-

2:52 AM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, I didn't get a link.. just an IM discussion with a Korean friend who was "translating" the key points for me.

This was news to me, so that's why I was asking for independent verification.

Wasn't there a similar case with the US government and Woodcrest?

6:04 AM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will say it again, is it just me, or does it seem like when Intel talks about their products, they have to compare it to AMD products. I remember a few years ago Intel would talk as though AMD didn't exist. Funny how things have changed.

7:10 AM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Anonymous said...

I will say it again, is it just me, or does it seem like when Intel talks about their products, they have to compare it to AMD products. I remember a few years ago Intel would talk as though AMD didn't exist. Funny how things have changed. "

Clearly Intel is in the reaction mode, and following mode.

While Intel is using the tic-tac-toe board (lower left corner of the i-hate-amd picture) to guess AMD's next move, AMD is applying a chess board.

So, AMD announced their open-socket to pre-emptive strike Intel and once again, demonstrated Intel in clear reaction mode. Then AMD cap that off with a 65nm quad-core release to deflate the Intel 4-core balloon.

This is the first time I see a product announcement from Intel which is already obsolete before any actual sale. That's terrible.

AMD's CEO is a great strategist. I bet him over Intel's CEO any time.

-Longan- I play chess so I know ok.

10:21 AM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Edward said...

"I will say it again, is it just me, or does it seem like when Intel talks about their products, they have to compare it to AMD products."

Yes, you are right. One can clearly smell fear and jealousy from Intel, both of which closely relate eath other. ;-)

11:09 AM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are two distinct group of Intel workers:
1. The one that join early (in the 80486 and earlier) with low priced stock option.

2. The one the joined around Pentium 2-3 on ward with high.

While both groups of workers got subjected to the bell-curved rating, thus back-stabbings from peers and pressures from bosses, only the first group reaped the huge rewards from the stock options.

The second group did not and would be bitter.

In my home town, I met a few "early Intel" ex-employees and they were very well off, but they praised Intel with some reservation. (Sure, they survived the bell-curves rating processes.)

I met many more "later Intel" ex-employees and they mostly hated Intel. And you can't say these folks failed the bell-curve ratings. They were all decent workers and were doing fine at other companies.

-Longan-

P.S. Give me a choice, I will work for AMD ten times over Intel for sure. (I am not working for AMD nor Intel at any time yet, just my preference.) I believe Intel is having a disadvantage in hiring workers. Better workers try to get to AMD first before they submit to Intel.

2:38 PM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those of you not in the know, Z-RAM can be used for L2 cache.

3:46 PM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Edward said...

"For those of you not in the know, Z-RAM can be used for L2 cache."

Yes, Z-RAM can be used for L2, or even L1 cache, provided the chip is on SOI. But the question is should it be used for L2, with its much slower speed?

5:06 PM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Edward said...

"This is the first time I see a product announcement from Intel which is already obsolete before any actual sale."

haha... well put.

5:10 PM, September 29, 2006  
Blogger nyx said...

"You fanboys and non-intel employees are just so jealous that you don't work at INTEL. ANy AMD monkey would give his job up in a heartbeat to have the same and maybe even lower level job at INTEL."

The last I checked Intel employees are finding it difficult to keep their own jobs. Why would an AMD employee want to risk working for a corporation which provides poor job security. Intel didn't win any compassion firing a large percentage of its workforce, consolidating divisions, and selling parts of itself off. Intel is trying to keep the ship afloat. I must commend their marketing team though on their efforts to make a big deal out of a boring IDF conference held at San Fran. I have never heard so much b*llsh*t in my life. I tried staying awake through most of it, but repeatedly dozed off. Their incessant use of "fluff" words and phrases to glamourize their product line was almost insulting. They brought the level of intelligence down to such a ridiculously low level that it was hard to take the whole event seriously. I can't imagine that such grandiose marketing babble is actually taken seriously, yet some analysts appeared to have been convinced by it enough to proclaim that Intel was finally on track to take back its dominance in the chip segment of the market.

6:11 PM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

**Give me a choice, I will work for AMD ten times over Intel for sure. (I am not working for AMD nor Intel at any time yet, just my preference.) I believe Intel is having a disadvantage in hiring workers. Better workers try to get to AMD first before they submit to Intel.
--------------------------------------
had to agree that ....i heard someone comment about working in Intel malaysia and AMD malaysia .


Intel malaysia : nice pay but working hour like shit .

AMD malaysia : still working over there, and seem like everythings ok .

8:26 PM, September 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"For those of you not in the know, Z-RAM can be used for L2 cache."

ZRAM could also theoretically be used for L1 cache - though it would suck from a speed perpsective.

Since you are in the know - what is the speed for typical 6T SRAM and DEMONSTRATED (not theoretical) speed of ZRAM?

5:07 PM, September 30, 2006  
Blogger IT Kitty Cat said...

guys, guys, guys...

Can't you get a joke? For God's sake, have a sense of humor..

This kind of humor is common! relax!

8:10 AM, October 01, 2006  
Blogger IT Kitty Cat said...

oh yeah.. I forgot to mention that AMD used the words "Joker inside" to take a shot at Intel 3 years ago in one of their presentation..

SO you see, it is fun to watch both companies take a cheap shot at each other every once and while.. SMILE, it is entertainment!

8:16 AM, October 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Working at INTEL or AMD.

If you are really good working at INTEL or AMD won't matter you' stay employed. The difference is if you are good you can be in the drivers seat doing great things at INTEL, at AMD, well you playing to stay alive.

If you are an idiot, chances are you probably could land a job and hide out in the closets at a company as large as INTEL. Pss they are on to you and the idiots are getting fired. Are their some idiots at AMD? Probably a few, but they have to pull some real weight. Bottom line if you are good INTEL is the place to be. If you are an idiot.. INTEL was the place to be. They are cleanign house. Sharikou looks like you were house cleaned before they even got to the idots...

THis is no different then IBM 10-20 years ago.

5:24 PM, October 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Major Korean portal has stability problems with their Woodcrest servers

http://www.inews24.com/php/news_view.php?g_menu=020200&g_serial=225735

How's yr Korean?

This is the article that my Korean friend mentioned (can't recall where I posted this in an earlier comment)

The gist he said was that Woodcrest was overheating and behaving unstably (seems like related to FBDIMMs).

NHN was a big customer of AMD and it was big news when they awarded a big recent contract to Intel/Samsung.

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