Sunday, July 02, 2006

Monopolistic Exclusion and Nazism

Another report alleges that Intel excluded AMD from the PC market in Germany. German retailer Metro tells its suppliers that it has an agreement with Intel which bars them from purchasing products containing AMD CPUs.

I think this kind of exclusionary acts are worse than price fixing. Exclusion completely denies competors' access to market. In the movie "The Pianist", the Nazis denied some people's access to food regardless of what they were willing to pay. It's a very similar situation here.

There are three main features of Nazism: (1) A sense of absolute superiority and strong hatred and contempt towards competition (2) A urge to exterminate the competition regardless of the cost (3) A methodical and even scientific plan to carry out the extermination.

One can compare monopolistic exclusion to Nazism. Hitler had a philosophy of racial exclusion and Aryan monopoly of racial existence. Monopolists have similar doctrine in the market. Hitler wanted to wipe out competing races by violence. Monopolists don't want fair competition, they only want monopolisitc control. Intel execs' pathetic behaviour* and their fixation on excluding AMD may be traced back to their deep rooted hatred towards competition.

Reading the book "Inside Intel" by Tim Jackson, you know that Intel has a ruthless and often unethical way of doing things, internally and externally.
Intel doesn't look like an American company in many ways. Intel's corporate culture was cultivated by Andy Grove, a survivor of Nazi and Soviet oppression. During his times, even high level Intel execs are routingly shouted at and chided in meetings and punished by being put into CAP ("corrective action program"). Intel had a system to constantly weed out the least productive 10% of its work force, which led to the creation of the FACE Intel organization.

Today's Intel is the same old Intel. Its execs are still following the old way of doing business.
Intel is not expanding its horizons into other areas, it is not focusing on growing revenue and profit. Instead, Intel is solely working on gaining CPU market share, or reducing competitor's market share, even though Intel already has 75% of the market.
They are again trying to restrict free trade and commerce and limit people's freedom to choose by exercising their monopolistic powers.

There is a fundamental difference between expansion and exclusion. AMD expands the computing ecosystem through efforts such as pervasive 64 bit computing, x86 everywhere, 50x15, multicore scalable systems, HyperTransport Consortium, Torrenza, GreenGrid, AMD Live!... Intel always tries to exclude competition through programs such as Intel Inside(stop buying AMD and get $$$), Centrino (Intel CPU+Intel chipset+Intel Wi-Fi), VIIV(Intel CPU+Intel chipset+Intel LAN card)...It's no surprise that AMD is growing and Intel is shrinking.

Intel execs openly said they are angry. I think they are not just angry, they are hateful. Such attitude has even poisoned the Intel user community, where fanboism often turns into fundamentalism.

The Third Reich's collapse was swift.

* Henri Richard:
"I think that Intel executives refusing to attend a meeting, for example, if AMD is on the menu, or on stage, is just simply pathetic, but it happens time and time again. I don’t think that a company that’s worth US$120 billion or more, that’s one of the top Fortune 500 companies, should ever condone that kind of behavior, and I don’t understand why Intel is not welcoming free and open competition, especially from a much smaller competitor."


60 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't see kicking out the least productive 10% of its work force is consider ruthless. Those 10% knows the policy and they are still abusing it, then it is their fault.

7:53 PM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For you to compare Nazis to Intel is only showing you lack of intelligence and your blatent disrespect for others.

I would strongly urge you to retract this post, as I cant't be the only one who will write you and tell you this, it would be beneficial to you as a blogger not to ruin your respect with such an arrogant blog.

To anyone who supports comments like these, go fu@k yourselfs, because its this kind of sh!t that seperates people even more.

8:07 PM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

chips and operating systems and even the companies that make them are not people. big difference. this post is nuts.

dude, spare me all the nazi/hitler/holocaust analogies.

8:56 PM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, you quite possibly are asking for trouble.

Regardless if this is rue or not (probably is) people are going to come at yuou with all guns blazing.

Just becareful.

8:59 PM, July 02, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D. said...

chips and operating systems and even the companies that make them are not people.

It's the same line of thinking. Why do Intel execs refuse to attend a meeting when AMD people are in the menu? What is their mentality there?

You talk about chips. But apparently Intel people have made it very much personal. Chips are chips, but the people behind them are not. Now, let's trace this back to the deepest and darkest corners of people's mind.

9:44 PM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This cant be more true ..

"I am a Nazi Bast**d, and I am gonna k*ll every one"

If you make the above line into something politically correct ..it becomes "Only the Paranoid survive !!"

9:51 PM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're cracking up already..

Isn't this supposed to be "64-bit computing" blog. It is now becoming a political blog. And those Nazism statements are surely gonna get yourself in a heap of messy troubles...

Your worship of AMD as the ultimete and only superior processor and company shows the same trait as fascism, like the Aryan doctrine..

Regards..

10:21 PM, July 02, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D. said...

Your worship of AMD as the ultimete and only superior processor and company shows the same trait as fascism, like the Aryan doctrine..

So you personally find it instructive to apply this analogy.

No. I don't worship AMD or its processors. But I found Intel's behaviour despicable and against commonly accepted human values. Intel represents a force against the technological advance of mankind. Without Intel's impedence, the world would have realized pervasive 64 bit computing already.

10:28 PM, July 02, 2006  
Blogger Ajay S. said...

Comparing Intel to Nazis is too much on the side of being extreme.

But Intel's childish reaction and cheap tactics are a blot on Captialism.

When you not ready to compete on fair basis, its talks a lot about about the general insecuriy in your company and the lack of confidence in your own product.

PS: People who cant digest Sharikou's style of writing should move on rather than filling comments with "I dont like..."

10:54 PM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sharikou,
Although I agree with alot of your positions on AMD and INTEL. You have shown your own antisemetic and anti western sides in the Yahoo message boards. I dont think you really understand the nazi's hitler the holocaust etc. To compare a company to the nazis, a group of people who wanted to literally wipe all jews off the face of the earth (and came about half way.) is idiotic.
I dont rememeber the exact quotes but you were intent on pointing out this guy is a jew that guy is a jew etc. When things get tough it seems you become a biggot.

10:55 PM, July 02, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D. said...

To compare a company to the nazis, a group of people who wanted to literally wipe all jews off the face of the earth (and came about half way.) is idiotic.

I couldn't find a better analogy. The situation with Intel and AMD is this: Intel is bigger, but AMD is smarter. The bigger one wants to kill off the smarter one through a bunch of illegal moves.

11:03 PM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, this is called Capitalism, and it's the greatest thing on Earth! It is also why Intel is eating the dust! The goal is to make as much money and KILL the competition...

When Dell wanted to sell their own brand of printers, HP cut them off completely. Why? Obviously, HP's dominance was going to be threatened, and they pulled the plug.

Only German Metro will be hurt by this agreement with Intel. There will come a time when Metro will realize that 'non-novice' people are buying AMD and their Intels aren't selling, and decide to eat the cost of breaking the Intel agreement to earn back the customers who don't mind spending money on higher end computing.

If AMD really is as good as they are perceived to be on this blog... they will have no problem bringing Metro to their knees!

Gotta' luv Capitalism! Can you smell it?

11:11 PM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Surely one can't deny Intel's Expansionism: compete and undercut chipset, MB, Graphics chip partners

and Totalitarianism:
try to set Intel agendas as industry standards.
Rambus? Itanium? Xscale?

Lucky for other industries, Intel failed
expansionism where it has no monopolistic controls.

11:32 PM, July 02, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D. said...

Surely one can't deny Intel's Expansionism

The western civilization has at its root the Hellenistic expansionism, that's quite healthy. However, what Intel is trying to do is not expansion but exclusion. There is a fundamental difference between expansion and exclusion.

11:39 PM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I think they are not just angry, they are hateful"
just goes to show that all these Intel
management have no technicial skills at all, most technicial people have common sense and can argue technicial issues regardless of which company they work for, FSB and large cache has its merits and IMC and HT have their merits..

11:42 PM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The western civilization has at its root the Hellenistic expansionism, that's quite healthy.

It's not healthy if it gets to a point when the well being of an industry depends on the actions or inactions of one company.

SiS, VIA etc all benefitted when Intel had its chipset shortage.

Atheros, Broadcom benefitted when AMD sold more notebooks, sans Centrino.

12:10 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are losing it, sharikou.. Dude just get some sleep. You will get better in the morning.

Your articles seem to get lamer by the day.. How many articles can you write bashing Intel, dude?

Seriously man, it gets boring after a while.. Can you just focus on telling us how the New K8 architecture is going to take back the performance crown rather than bashing the same guy?

You started losing me..

1:42 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously man, it gets boring after a while.. Can you just focus on telling us how the New K8 architecture is going to take back the performance crown rather than bashing the same guy?

It's funny because he's not the one coming up with it. He's just doing his research and even has the evidence to back him up.

3:19 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One good link:
http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~jsteckel/B011101/amdintel/The%20last%20man%20standing.doc

How Intel killed Transmeta and how is trying to kill AMD.

4:08 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bigger one wants to kill off the smarter one through a bunch of illegal moves.

Intel doesn't want AMD to die (and vice-versa), as the DoJ would come down on them like a ton of bricks if ever that happened. Hell, the only reason why the DoJ never did anything to Intel when Cyrix went down was because it was pretty much accepted that Cyrix did themselves in!

6:10 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear sharikou sir ..... Any average (mayb below average too...) computer science student can confidently say that the number of pipelines heavily affect the performance of a cpu .... while having a decent number of pipelines is not bad .... having too many pipelines is bad ...... AMD currently has more than 28 pipelines while Intel in it's conroe , woodcrest and merom class (core 2 duo) processors have no more than 14 pipelines .... . with this facct in mind , Intel will one day whip the a** of AMD and rid them of their arrogance ....

btw ..... equating intel to nazis was completely uncalled for ....
their current flavour of performance per watt critical processors were designed in Isreal and India ..... jews and aryans !!!

history has completely outsmarted you !!!!I believe 24 hrs. of complete bed rest will make u see things in better light

7:47 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some anonymous coward posted:
"AMD currently has more than 28 pipelines while Intel in it's conroe , woodcrest and merom class (core 2 duo) processors have no more than 14 pipelines .... . with this facct in mind , Intel will one day whip the a** of AMD and rid them of their arrogance ...."

Eh?

Where did you get that?
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/x6800vsfx62-5.htm
Intel Core uA/AMD K8 uA
Pipeline Stage=14/12

8:21 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-preview_9.html

AMD currently has more than 28 pipelines while Intel in it's conroe , woodcrest and merom class (core 2 duo) processors have no more than 14 pipelines .... .

AMD = 12
Intel = 14

Unless I'm missing something...

history has completely outsmarted you !!!!

Hope you don't eat your own words :P

8:42 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>AMD currently has more than 28 pipelines while Intel in it's conroe , woodcrest and merom class (core 2 duo) processors have no more than 14 pipelines .... .

LOL. Get the right fact please, no blind fanboyism ok?!

9:43 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will anyone actually take Sharikou seriously now? WIth this post, Sharikou has cemented his position as the most biased blogger ever.

Who needs ammunition when you provide it so amply yourself. I think it is obvious that you have an axe to grind and some fundamental mental issues.

10:24 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Now, let's trace this back to the deepest and darkest corners of people's mind."

Shari-fraud. Unless your PhD is in psycology, then you are not qualified to make such claims. Somehow you think that by putting PhD at the end of your name it lends credibility to your commentary on Intel's economics, (about which you will be proved wrong), microprocessor design and manufacturing, and now it makes you qualified to do some armchair psychology. I've said it before and I will say it again. You are a sad, pathetic little man with a little axe to grind.

10:28 AM, July 03, 2006  
Blogger Unknown said...

Some anonymous coward posted:
This cant be more true ..

"I am a Nazi Bast**d, and I am gonna k*ll every one"

If you make the above line into something politically correct ..it becomes "Only the Paranoid survive !!"


Really, well the man who quoted that line lived through the Nazi's ransacking Hungary and fled the communists doing the same. To say that Intel is killing anyone is ridiculous and being paranoid in business does not translate to violence. This is more idiocy on the part of Sharikou's fans. Sharikou, I believe if freedom of speech if only because it exposes idiots and their biases. That includes you and yours.

10:32 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People who cant digest Sharikou's style of writing should move on rather than filling comments with "I dont like..."

It is called freedom of expression. Every idiot with an axe to grind has the right to a blog in the USA and everyone who cares to comment has the same right. If Sharikou can't take the heat, he should either censor himself or close his comments section to all. Keep in mind, he already has the privilege to censor those who say what they don't like. Ajay, you are another of the Sharikou/AMD ass-kissers.

10:35 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sharikou says...
I may not be able to write more or moderate the comments for the next few days. I wish I can open the comments without moderation, but there are too many folks who like to spam...

Garbage in, garbage out.

10:38 AM, July 03, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D. said...

Shari-fraud. Unless your PhD is in psycology, then you are not qualified to make such claims.

It is a well known phenomenon that sometimes a victim adopts the thinking and style of his victimizer. I really hope Intel execs can take a broader and healthier view of the world, instead of tormenting themselves with anger and hate.

10:41 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny because he's not the one coming up with it. He's just doing his research and even has the evidence to back him up.

Really, you call linking to a couple articles evidence? Also, none of those articles make a link between Intel and Nazism. It took a fool like Sharikou to come up with that all by himself. Nice aim shooting yourself in the foot! Congratulations!

11:20 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a fundamental difference between expansion and exclusion

In a zero-sum game, expansion ultimately leads to exclusion. Tough nuts for AMD if they don't realize that.

11:22 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AMD and Intel both have their processors in the CISC class of processors . Therefore at any point of time one processor will be better than the other only by a slight margin (unless , one decides to take the RISC route ...) and the battle between the two processors will continue and therefore indulging in crude business tactics like the one mentioned in the post is natural ......

11:25 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok .... i am really sorry . I should have cross checked my facts . Indeed AMD has only 12 pipeline stages unlike what i wrote there (28)

11:27 AM, July 03, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D. said...

In a zero-sum game, expansion ultimately leads to exclusion. Tough nuts for AMD if they don't realize that.


Examples of expansion:
develop AMD64 into big iron highly scalable systems; 50x15 initiative; x86 everywhere; pervasive 64 bit computing; multicore AMD64; HyperTransport consortium; Torrenza; GreenGrid...

These all create a expanded eco-system where many "species" can prosper

Examples of exclusion:
"Stop buying AMD CPUs and get $$$$"
VIIV, Centrino, Intel Inside, vPro..

11:30 AM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ups....REVERSE HT IS ALIVE!!!

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/utilities/TscSync.zip

12:49 PM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's really simple. Sharikou will never listen to naysayers. In his mind, Sharikou sees that everything AMD says or does is right and everything Intel says or does is wrong. Thus, when the facts are inconvenient, Sharikou simply ignores them or censors them (comment moderation anyone?). I'm surprised that so many people haven't realized this yet.

1:11 PM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to bring this up, I have spent all morning reading articles that are pretty much saying that K8L won't be out until late 2007, or early 2008. Everything keeps saying that 2007 will only see a shift to 65nm for the K8.

Could someone point me towards some articles that say otherwise.

Thanks.

1:26 PM, July 03, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D. said...

In his mind, Sharikou sees that everything AMD says or does is right and everything Intel says or does is wrong.

You have to see thru the corporate veil. A company is run by real people, so a company has the personality of those people. For example, Microsoft is just an alter ego of Bill Gates. Intel stuck with the paranoid mentality, feeling insecure as long as there is competition. AMD has changed fundamentally since Hector Ruiz took over. It was a philosophical elvation to a higher level of existence. Ruiz painted a bright future for the whole IT industry, including Intel. AMD is the leader in vision and creative thought. Intel is a follower.

A company is ultimately limited by their leadership. What I see from AMD is a collective wisdom of many folks: Hector Ruiz is more and more like a military strategist, in terms of engineering leadership, AMD is unmatched. You can count on AMD to make the right strategic and engineering decisions. What I see from Intel is the same old school of thought.

Being limited by the knowledge and wisdom of its leadership, a company often stuck in a dead loop, and it needs external references to find out a way to break away and think anew and act anew.

What we are seeing is a dynasty change. There will be a war in the coming two quarters, but it will be quick and decisive. It's a game called "the quicker and the dead".

1:31 PM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. S, you are so right on. It's not the the big eats the small, it's the fast eats the slow.

1:40 PM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That said, Herr Sharikou, while I used to find the rare nugget of useful info here, that you would compare a company's behavior to the systematic extermination of well over 10 million human beings (Jews, Gypsys...) is repugnant at best. That Intel's #3 employee (Andy Grove) fled the Nazis and became an American success story just adds salt to the wound.

I hereby invoke Godwin's Law and declare that Sharikou hath killed his own thread. *PLONK*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

2:40 PM, July 03, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D. said...

I hereby invoke Godwin's Law and declare that Sharikou hath killed his own thread.

Ha ha, I learnt something today. Thanks.

Maybe Andy Grove will end Intel's illegal exclusion of competitors so we can end this discussion.

3:01 PM, July 03, 2006  
Blogger howling2929 said...

Dear Sharikou:

With this post, you have violated Godwin's Law. It means that, the blog is going to start either degenerating into a long
flamewar over Nazi Germany or about Godwin's Law. Either way, the blog
is effectively over, and you can safely kill the blog and move on.

Nice to know you, hope that your new blog, with a new identity is better.

Cheers!

Howling2929

3:26 PM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another similar news:
Intel may have paid German retailer to shut out AMD

8:56 PM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Non-Jews are not permitted to use any form of "Nazi" unless they are talking about crimes against Jews.

Jews, on the other hand, are expected to contribute their support to the further building of Nazism as the greatest evil of human history.

In the modern world, no great evils are allowed to exist other than Hitler and his Nazis. And Hitler's great evil was not his illegal war, but rather his treatment of Jews, i.e. THE HOLOCAUST.

So aspiring blog authors may wish to factor in proper usage of "Nazi" to their endeavors.

For this particular blog article, we can see that the term "Nazi" is completely inappropriate to apply to a company which has largely been defined by its Jewish founder and CEO.

Remember, good reader, that Nazism is not defined by hatred, paranoia, aggression, illegal war, maltreatment of others, etc. Nazism is defined as crime against Jews. And as such is the greatest evil that mankind can perpetrate.

Hopefully any confusion that might have arisen in the minds of politically correct readers has been put to rest and we can get back to our usual NewSpeak blog program.

Back to you, Sharikou.

Just how pervasive is 64-bit computing these days?

9:09 PM, July 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep these kinds of posts coming, please.

I find them interesting in that they further alert the world to what a pathetic piece of shit you are, and what a completely insane scumbag you truly are.

I say post more posts like this! Perhaps you can make the argument that Intel's CEO is the anti-christ, or perhaps that Craig Barrett was a space alien.

Nutbag.

9:59 PM, July 03, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D. said...

Perhaps you can make the argument that Intel's CEO is the anti-christ, or perhaps that Craig Barrett was a space alien.

No. It's not that complicated at all. Nazism is a form of monopolistic exclusion, that was the central point of this article.

The thing special about Nazism was it was modern and more systematic. As we compare certain monopoly to the Nazis, the key factor you need to consider is whether the monopolistic behaviour is systematic.

12:39 AM, July 04, 2006  
Blogger Altamir Gomes said...

A years ago, Intel's then highly touted SSE2 was mispelled somehow on their own page, and there was some other typo too, but were corrected short after I sent'em an email pointing the errors. There was a nice reply from Intel thanking me too.

You know, a marketing company company cares most about posting numbers than words, or than doing smart interconnect technology, or IMC, or else, by the way :)

3:55 AM, July 04, 2006  
Blogger Unknown said...

Sharikou, why is it that the pea brains feel that they have the scream the loudest?

Honestly, I don't know how you put up with all the morons here pretending that they at least exercise their brains as many times as they masterbate?

7:38 AM, July 04, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Nazism is a form of monopolistic exclusion, that was the central point of this article."

Mr. Sharikou, I like your blogs, although they are sometimes controversial. I also get your point that Nazism is an extreme form of exclusion. However, --

1) You shouldn't equate exclusion to Nazism. The latter also has the concept of racism, nationalism, and anti-communism. Exclusion (toward non-Aryans) is just part of it.

2) I don't think Nazism has much to do with monopoly. It is racial, but as long as you're within the "aryan" race you "get a share."

3) Intel is a very American company. Its actions could be evil, like Microsoft's, or the Oil company's. Monopoly was the dream of Americans - it was even made into that famous board game.

In short, Nazism has much more than exclusion, and has little to do with monopoly. Thus, while Intel's exclusive & monopolistic actions might be evil, it is by any mean not close to Nazi.

10:15 AM, July 04, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sharikou,

You may want to retract your story.

The goernment of germany found no evidence of what you claim:

http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32802

11:13 AM, July 04, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe this article will get the worthless Sharikou to start thinking before he writes:

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32802

Somehow I doubt it though. He is the Ann Coulter of Tech blogging. Just writing what is provocative without regard to truth, common sense or otherwise.

12:02 PM, July 04, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep these kinds of posts coming, please.

I find them interesting in that they further alert the world to what a pathetic piece of shit you are, and what a completely insane scumbag you truly are.

I say post more posts like this! Perhaps you can make the argument that Intel's CEO is the anti-christ, or perhaps that Craig Barrett was a space alien.

Nutbag.


Amen! I wonder, as a so-called frelance tech journalist, how many of your clients would allow you to publish knowing full well your insane biases? Aren't journalists supposed to be unbiased. Maybe you can just be a curmudgeon like John Dvorak. But to do that I think you need to at least be likable. So two strikes on Sharikou. Biased and unlikable.

12:06 PM, July 04, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bruno, how about you stop being so condescending?

9:13 PM, July 04, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF IS UP WITH THE PIC OF BILL GATES?!!!
BILL GATES IS PRESIDENT OF MICROSOFT!!!!
NOT INTEL...
IN FACT, the relationship between intel and microsoft is becoming a bit more precarious, since intel started catering to apple, alongside microsoft. That changes everything.

But still, the article was about intel and really had little to do with bill gates.

Also, i think its pretty rediculous to compare intel to germanic nazizm.

The nazis were way worse

12:33 PM, July 05, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow.. I mean, I appreciate the link to the group of ex-employees of Intel, but to compare the slaughter of millions to a company that ruthlessly fires people is a HUGE stretch.

Intel isn't angelic, they're quite nasty, but your post disrespects all who suffered at the hands of the Nazis.

Sheesh, Intel isn't even as bad as the the camps for Japanese Americans in WW2, or Guantanamo Bay, let alone the fricken' Nazis.

I've seen Godwin's Law in action before, but never as the *start* of a blog. You should remember this quote: "There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress."

Are you sure *you're* not a paid Intel guy? Starting off your argument with an automatic loss?!

8:51 AM, July 06, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sharikou,

I can't believe the analogy to Nazism. Yes, some of business practices are anti competitive or unfair...but it's not torturing or killing people. It is not the same mentality. If you think the mentality to kill competitors like AMD is the same as the mentality to kill and torture people, you are insane and doing a disservice to amd fans. End of the day, it's just business. AMD getting killed is not the same suffering as people getting killed. If i was in Intel or MSFT's shoes, I'd do the same. Any small competitor wishes the same -- to kick competition's butt and make a lot of money.

Sharikou, I have lost respect for you. You're not insane. you're just trying generate controversy and more hits to your website. Just pathetic to read your stuff lately. AMD just keeps going down. Loser. Find a real job.

1:27 PM, July 06, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It takes a big man to retract a lie. We know now that Sharikou isn't one!

5:02 PM, July 07, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D. said...

It takes a big man to retract a lie. We know now that Sharikou isn't one!

I noticed that there were newer reports that stated that there wasn't an German government investigation of the alleged crime (yes, illegal monopolistic behaviour is a felony), but nothing changes the argument of this article. The JFTC findings on similar Intel exclusive deals were conclusive.

10:52 PM, July 07, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So many posts about the Nazi-Intel "analogy" upsetting people's feelings.
These are very emotional responses. Forget emotional responses and consider logic.

Last i checked my dictionary it said:

Analogy- A resemblance of relations; an agreement or likeness between things in _some_ circumstances or effects, when the
things are otherwise _entirely_ different.

Its not the same as Nazism. It just shares _some_ things among many others that are entirely different.

4:04 AM, July 10, 2006  

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