Saturday, July 29, 2006

Intel Core notebook in flames again

This page has the pcitues. Can someone identify the model number from this picture?
This picture shows the burnt hole.

We previously discussed this explosion and reached a preliminary finding that Core Duo exploded. FAA should ban all Intel Core notebooks on flights.


Anonymous theKingRich said...

I think it is clear with these pictures... that the fire was caused by the Battery... wouldn't you say?

6:30 PM, July 29, 2006  
Blogger Azary Omega said...

Holly s**t!!! Intel fangirls werent kiddin - this conroe thingy realy is hot-item to buy.

6:36 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have that picture on my computer, too.

The Dell laptop in question was the Latitude D610, which had a Intel Pentium M, not a Core Duo.

And it looked like the fire came from the Dell's battery compartment (the guy also confirmed that it came from the battery area). As we all know, there's been a big controversy over lithium-ion battery explosions as of late. The well-documented fire hazards of Li-Ion batteries aren't limited to laptops with Intel, AMD, and even PowerPC chips... they have also affected everything from cell phones to portable DVD players.

6:36 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Battery needs a short to blow, what caused the short is the question? CPU, regulator, capacitor or what?

7:08 PM, July 29, 2006  
Blogger pointer said...

We previously discussed this explosion and reached a preliminary finding that Core Duo exploded. FAA should ban all Intel Core notebooks on flights.

Good try. By re-interating your 'finding' that the explosion caucsd by the intel core just making you look like a clown. i'm actually highlighting your finding in my blog for people to laugh at.

btw, I happen to be able to read chinese. The wording said the June case was caused by battery (Dell said). 对于6月份的着火事件,戴尔称是由于锂离子电池所导致。但到目前为止,尚未查清起火的根源所在。

keep coming Doc, we surely 'enjoy' your finding :)

7:49 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course it was the battery. All these recent laptop fires have been caused by battery failures. Microprocessors can't burst into flame; it's chemically impossible.

To quote Monty Python:

Look, matey! This parrot wouldn't "voom" if you put four thousand volts through it!

8:00 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously, Sharikou, you do look like a fool now. In the last picture you posted, one can clearly see that it's the battery. On the top right in that pic, there are the cooling slots for the CPU, and there are no burn marks in this area. Not even mentioning that this laptop did not have a CORE chip in it.


8:42 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are a riot, dude. Keep this social experiment going. I've figured out that nobody can be as silly as you are, but people actually keep coming on and agreeing with you.

That rocks. You're the Ali G of the computing world with this lovely ridiculousness.

9:20 PM, July 29, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

The wording said the June case was caused by battery (Dell said)

No. The battery burnt, but that was not the source of the fire...

9:33 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1) It's strange that only Dell models exploded so far... 2) AMD Turions may have exploded too, its just that, nobody uses them for their lacklustre performance. Nobody buys them, hence no accidents. 3) The law of probability states that as the number of Intel lappies bought increases, the probably of an accident occurring tends to 1, a chance in a million could happen if you had a million models sold, hence, it's what you said about Intel is really inconclusive.

10:05 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The battery burnt, but that was not the source of the fire..."

Then what's your proof that the CPU was the source?

By the way, Dothans use about 25W of power under full load. Even if the fan died, the copper pipes should still provide some cooling. By comparison, the lightbulb in my room uses 80W, and has no dedicated cooling of any sort. If your logic is sound, then my lightbulb should explode when I turn it on. Oh, wait a second, it's been on for the last two hours! And it's still intact!

12:14 AM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so what do you think the actual source of the fire, doc?? are you positively sure that the cause was the proc??

12:25 AM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous muziqaz said...

to that anonymous with the light bulb :)
mate, I'd like to see you fixing that bulb in your computer. [[[[;
on laptop there is not only that 25w cpu, there is hdd, chipset, gfx chipset, wifi.
OTOH those dell dudes need to do better QA, because it is becoming very scary to buy laptop.

6:39 AM, July 30, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

It's strange that only Dell models exploded so far

Because only DELL is 100% Intel and always get Intel's latest parts. HP has more AMD content.

10:42 AM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Because only DELL is 100% Intel and always get Intel's latest parts. HP has more AMD content."

1) Sony seems to be 100% Intel as well... Neither have I heard of HP with Intel inside exploding... Hence, in conclusion, it MUST be Dell's battery. How do I know? Just the SAME way you KNOW that Intel explodes. My reasoning is as sound as yours...
2) It's not because AMD doesn't explode, it's just that nobody uses it at all as its performance is not worth mentioning (being fragged by a 32bit core1 and all). If AMD lappies sell, they may have an explosion real soon, even if the chance is 1 in a million. You will understand what I mean if you understand basic probability, which is the reason behind Godwin's Law. As more and more people do a particular thing, the probablilty of accidents occurring tend towards 1.

11:31 AM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous Graham said...

Sharikou again shows he has no scientific background. It is no wonder that he was fired from Intel and has an axe to grind. You leap to conclusions with incomplete data. By the way, how is that benchmarking web site you mentioned going? Oh, I guess you don't have enough time since you have dedicated your every waking hour to trashing Intel and ass-kissing AMD. You are a pathetic fool!

11:51 AM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sharikou speaks chinese now!

2:38 PM, July 30, 2006  
Blogger Dr Blog said...

I know that rechargeable battery packs incorporate Thermal fuses , and bi-metal circuit breakers because I have repaired them. From the pictures shown I see no metal battery casings left. It’s as if the batteries core ignited spontaneously and burned as fuel. I have seen warnings on some lithium ion batteries sold individually that batteries should not be used with hi current devices like rechargeable drills. (Or Dell PC’s) This is not a problem confined to dell, I’ve read several articles about exploding cell phones also. Sharikou I believe your fears concerning flying on an airplane with these devices is not unfounded, however there is a better solution, pack the battery in your suitcase, and run your pc on the planes power adaptor. It doesn’t have the reserve for a meltdown.
Here’s a couple of excerpts from
The failure mode that leads to explosion in a Li Ion leads to an event called “venting with flames” in a Li Po cell. The basic phenomenon is called thermal runaway. If, say, a Li Po cell is charged at six to seven volts, well above the nominal 4.2 V limit, the electrolyte can begin to “boil” and develop voids as temperature rises above about 180 degrees F. If this abuse continues for, say, ½ hour, the electrolyte, being organic, can eventually ignite.
If the lithium ignites, it burns with an intensity and gas generation that can cause “venting with flames” that is the gasses exit the envelope with a swoosh, not a blast. If you have the pack in your airplane when this happens, your airplane is going to be damaged. If you have the pack on a highly flammable car seat, the seat is likely to catch fire.
It appears these “ion” batteries began an electroplating process when overcharged forming the flammable “metal” lithium.
I looked at the exploding Pentium and Duron and find it to be a total hoax. If you look into how a CPU socket works you will see that the average guy couldn’t pry one out in 10 minutes with a screwdriver.
IC chips do make a loud pop and smoke cloud when they short out but they don’t rip 500 pins loose.
Since no one would give these clowns explosives, I would guess they put 5 magnum pistol primers under the CPU. The heat generated by removing the heat sink would ignite them.

10:27 PM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous nECrO said...

As to the Dothan "only" consuming 25w, try working with a Latitude D600/610 (same laptop except the D610 has 4 USB ports vs. the D600's 2) on your lap. I have only made it 10 minutes with my D600. And no, I didn't block the CPU fan vent. Biggest peice of crap I have ever used. The only bright spot was that I didn't pay for it.

For those of you stuck with this crappy excuse for a laptop, get a PCMCIA wireless card. I am getting 30 minutes more battery life with the Dell wireless turned off.

Parts replaced so far:

Motherboards: 2
Wireless chips:1 (Til I got wise and replaced it.)

And the damn thing still blue screens 3 or 4 times a day....

8:43 AM, July 31, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


6:57 PM, August 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The area underneath the BATTERY is all black. I wonder what caused that. Because it's a Intel CPU, I think a short cut inside the CPU made the battery explode, because I hate Intel.

Dell make great laptops, specially the batteries inside them, they rock, and are steady as hell. And Intel sucks as hell, YEAH.

10:55 AM, August 03, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a fool. There is absolutely no way that you could be sure what caused the fire other than to say that the battery exploded.Shakira. You're a fool

5:32 PM, August 07, 2006  

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