Saturday, April 21, 2007

3GHZ Opteron SpecInt_rate score published, Woodcrest fragged

2P dual core Opteron 2222SE SpecInt_rate2006 score: 56.6

2P dual core Xeon 5160 SpecInt_rate2006 score: 50.7

4P dual core Core 3GHZ Xeon 7120N, Specint_rate2006: 50.7 (8 cores)

2P dual core Opteron 2222SE, SpecFp_rate2006: 52.1

2p dual core Xeon 5160 (3GHZ) SpecFp_rate2006: 45.1

2P quad core Xeon 5345 SpecFp_rate2006: 51.7


Blogger enumae said...


Your post are getting more and more like Intel and AMD's marketing!

Why don't you compare a Woodcrest 5160 to an Opteron 2222SE in SpecInt_2006, it cant possibly be because the 5160 beats the 2222SE system by about 5%?

11:50 PM, April 21, 2007  
Blogger Ho Ho said...

That 4P Xeon an last 2P quadcore Xeon have no rate, only base score.

1:29 AM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger Randy Allen said...

The 7120N is only a meagre 3Ghz, 4MB Cache version of Tulsa.

Who wants to bet that a 3.4Ghz Tulsa with 16mb cache will frag a 3Ghz Opteron. Not bad for an old Netburst CPU. Woodcrest and Clovertown will frag it even further.

AMD is totally fragged. Running out of cash, losing market share, unable to get more cash because of the Morgan Stanley loan. AMD is finished. AMD BK Q2'08.

1:47 AM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger Randy Allen said...

Just noticed the quad core CPU scores. Only a 2.33Ghz Clovertown? Odd. I thought Clovertown went up to 3Ghz!

1:54 AM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger Dahaka said...

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1:55 AM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger Dahaka said...

@Randy allen You are wrong

4p opteron at 2.8 ghz is fragging
4p tulsa at 3.4 ghz.

4p opteron 2.8 ghz specint_rate 175

4p tulsa 3.4 ghz specint_rate 164

Intel is finished! Amd will win the war.

K10 is like a tank will frag quadcore intel processors.

Penryn can't rescue intel because K10 will kill penryn.

Look at here

2:02 AM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger Randy Allen said...

Thanks for the link. So we know that Tulsa even based on ancient Netburst is still quite competitive, losing by only 3% average.

But in 2P, where the majority of sales are, Woodcrest frags Opteron by 24%. Clovertown frags Opteron by a whopping 79%.

It's no wonder why AMD's market share is collapsing. The only thing holding AMD in the game is 4P and up servers. But that will soon change, Tigerton will be launched in a few months and it will consecutively frag Opteron.

Penryn will be the final nail in the coffin for AMD. Sharikou is a fool because he just looked at game performance, where the the GPU matters far more than the CPU.

But if you look at video encoding, the enhancements made can allow a dual core CPU to frag a current quad core in certain circumstances thanks to SSE4 and the SSE shuffle capabilities of Penryn. SSE4 is a Penryn exclusive. AMD just grouped a few SSE3 instructions together and called that 'SSE4A' - pathetic.

Intel should sue AMD for violating it's SSE trademarks.

AMD BK Q2'08.

2:28 AM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger Roborat, Ph. D. said...

Preliminary number crunching at iSuppli Corp. has confirmed Intel's bullish claims that market share losses in 2006 have been halted and gains once again seen. iSuppli believes that Intel regained 4.5 percentage points in the global microprocessor market, of which market the company now controls 80.2 percent.

after Q2, AMD will be back to 15% and intel the normal 84%!!!.
Then we can all relax for another 4 years and try and watch AMD sweating and bleeding, claw back market share slowly.

the wheels on the bus go round and round...

2:33 AM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

Intel's price cuts have come into effect, and will be doing AMD a world of pain.

One can buy a Core 2 Duo E6600 from Newegg for $235 now.

The Athlon 64 X2 6000+, at basically the same price ($239) suddenly became uninteresting.

Who wants an old 90nm processor that uses twice as much power that doesn't overclock as well?

As you can see from the data, the E6600 holds a rather slight performance advantage as well.

AMD will have to further cut prices.

6:39 AM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger oneexpert said...

You intel fanboys are just kidding yourselfs.
A e6600 is no match for a am2-6000.
My e6600 on a intel platform uses more power than a d805 intel barnburnner.
My am2-4800 brisbane outperforms my e6600 many times over with must less power consumed and much less heat generated.
The e6600 is far from a bargain when put onto the expensive intel platforms with antique graphics.
Maybe if intel drops the e6600 to $65.00 and some of the intel platforms to $40.00 then it would be a acceptable deal if they throw in a suitable power supply to run there antique platforms.
You simply cant beat the price performance of a am2-6000 on a fine ati platform.
The am2 6000 is a far more modern chip design than a pentium 3 e6600 super charged antique.
The entire intel line up does not have a chance in hell of maintaining performance with out a modern on board memory controller.
The fsb should have been abandoned 6 years ago, it has no future.
Its interesting what intel did with the pentium 3s c2d but it cant take intel to any sort of future.
The k10 will put intel 10 years behind and playing catch up if they can.
I do not believe isupply market share estimates cause best buy is selling much more amd than intel as is dell.
Giving pentium 3s fancy new names and die sizes does not create a viable future.
Intels reports of power usage have to be grossly in error according to my own personal experience with intel chips and platforms.
You can only get low power consumption with amd chips and platforms I have yet to find a intel chip and platform that uses small power when under heavy workload.

1:49 PM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger ililpfxhlu said...

Look, it's oneexpert!

2:26 PM, April 22, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


4:40 PM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger PENIX said...

dahaka said...
Penryn can't rescue intel because K10 will kill penryn.

Yes, this is true. Even the Intelers must agree, there is no longer a shred of doubt left. The numbers don't lie. K10 will mop the floor with Penryn.

8:23 PM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger enumae said...

The numbers don't lie.

What numbers?

9:05 PM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger Randy Allen said...

You simply cant beat the price performance of a am2-6000 on a fine ati platform.

Yeah. That ancient dual core architecture on 90nm spaceheater garbage using 125W of power is really efficient isn't it?!

The 6000+ has a 20% clock speed advantage and it still loses to the E6600. Pathetic.

K8 is ancient, capable of processing only three insturctions per cycle. Core 2 can do four instructions per cycle. K10 is still limited to three insturctions per cycle.

AMD BK Q2'08.

10:30 PM, April 22, 2007  
Blogger Ho Ho said...

"What numbers?"

You know, Core2 and K10. 10/2=5, thus K10 is five generations ahead of Core2.

1:14 AM, April 23, 2007  
Blogger middle_of_the_road said...

How about posting SpecInt rates from systems running the same Operating System ?

8:32 AM, April 23, 2007  
Blogger Roborat, Ph. D. said...


LOL!! he waited for weeks for this underwhelming Barcelona accouncement!!1

10:46 AM, April 23, 2007  
Blogger Giant said...

Your post are getting more and more like Intel and AMD's marketing!

Why don't you compare a Woodcrest 5160 to an Opteron 2222SE in SpecInt_2006, it cant possibly be because the 5160 beats the 2222SE system by about 5%?

It seems he did take your advice. Too bad though, instead of using your link he deliberately went and found a lower scoring setup so he could claim the Opteron is slower.

10:57 AM, April 23, 2007  

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