Wednesday, November 08, 2006

vPro rejected at Round Rock

DELL wants an AMD endorsed standard, not Intel's stickers.

19 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dell is afraid of another ViiV scam.

9:02 AM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Edward said...

"Dell is afraid of another ViiV scam."

Any company should be cautious with Intel's "new technologies" if there's any doubt on their success. The failure Itanium, for example, would hurt SGI and HP much more than Intel, simply because the last is the much larger monopoly.

11:45 AM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HP and vPro are going up up up while Dell and Live! are going down down down!

12:05 PM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Intel maybe struggling to do business as usual. This could get very interesting.

1:18 PM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"HP and vPro are going up up up while Dell and Live! are going down down down!"

Drop the crack pipe already. vPro is going to bomb just like ViiV, it doesn't take a even fanboy like Sharikou to figure this out. Nobody wants Intel's insidious proprietary technology at an premium when it's overall usefulness is about the same as a rock's. ViiV still lingers very well in the minds of many peoples and company execs who got burned on it. Intel got lucky with Centrino, however ViiV is a different story and vPro is shaping up to sound almost as bad if not worse.

Who the hell wants a technology to let anyone to access your hardware remotely when their engineers didn't even originally design a damn way to shut it off?!??! Sorry, but there are other software based solutions that do just as good a job IMHO. This is just a Intel "solution" to make IT's even lazier at thier jobs, spectacular thanks alot Intel!

2:57 PM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who in there right mind would purchase a proprietary snoop platform? Is there any wonder why support partners are limited.

5:15 PM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"DELL wants an AMD endorsed standard, not Intel's stickers."

It doesn't say that or to that effect anywhere in your link. Again you're misquoting articles to fit your need. I guess you really are a journalist but of the tabloid type.

5:49 PM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic but interesting;

ZDnet published this line about Intel’s Xeon possessors.

“Intel, afflicted by Xeon processors with comparatively low performance and high power consumption”

Now Gateway wants Opterons.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6133391.html

Question; how come the world isn’t lining up for those great Intel processors.

5:51 PM, November 08, 2006  
Blogger 180 Sharikou said...

You're missing the point. The folks who do want this are people like the IT outsourcing guys like IBM or EDS. The benefits of having a consistent & standard VPro solution across their client base helps drive their cost down. It's not that Dell doesn't get it. But Dell can't sell it. It's guys like IBM & HP who will sell this. And peple like EDS who will recommend it.

http://sharikou180.blogspot.com
(Get the real story)

5:58 PM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We have a number of OEMs lined up and a long list of ISVs to produce software for these technologies," Kwan

I agree 100% with Kwan. The OEMs want to cash in on the unfortunate IT professionals who deploy vPro.

6:01 PM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here another good stuff from Round Rock, http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/061108/20061108005201.html?.v=1

6:04 PM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Intel maybe struggling to do business as usual. This could get very interesting
.. Intel got lucky with Centrino ...

Precisely...this was because at that time people really wanted a wireless laptop. If you have a really great technology and product , you dont need an overdose of advertising like they are doing with the vPro, this is surely going to backfire.
Kim used to do a good job for Samsung, I think it is time for him to move on and leave those loosers behind.

7:59 PM, November 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"DELL wants an AMD endorsed standard"

Which part of the article states that? I don't see it.

10:35 PM, November 08, 2006  
Blogger duploxxx said...

Off topic but interesting;

ZDnet published this line about Intel’s Xeon possessors.

“Intel, afflicted by Xeon processors with comparatively low performance and high power consumption”

Now Gateway wants Opterons.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6133391.html

Question; how come the world isn’t lining up for those great Intel processors.

I'll give you a hint.... where is gateway launching its new servers? at the VMWARE conference. what is intel still lacking in it design? havy multitasking (check any povray review for example). What is VMWARE? real havy multitasking... (i am a vmware ESX beta tester for your info, I should know.)so what would you buy on this conference? AMD

Some software reacts really good on the new woodcrest like MYSQL for example but hey, what's the reason of mysql, its not scaling good with multicpu.... so its not good in real multitasking.

1:12 AM, November 09, 2006  
Blogger duploxxx said...

http://sharikou180.blogspot.com
(Get the real story)

you get too less of readers? thats why you keep advertising inthis blog?

the real story overthere? get real this wan is pro AMD your's is pro INtel

2:42 AM, November 09, 2006  
Anonymous roborat said...

Either this site attracts blind fanboyism or its just sharikou posting anonymously to pretend that there are people just like him.

vPro is a technology platform that will benefit both the OEM and Intel in terms of selling business solution to large organisations with a large user base. Just like it was easy for OEMs to sell Centrino, vPro was targeted at businesses.
It’s an added feature that is no cost to Dell or its customers but simply allows Intel products to become more attractive than non-vPro systems. It’s as simple as that and if any of you think there Intel has a sinister plan, then let me just say that you should disconnect from the internet and live in a cave.

If Dell doesn’t sell vPro systems then IT managers who prefer to have this technology can easily chose another OEM, simple as that. You need to be reminded that Dell only has 15% market share and is never viewed in the industry as a technology leader anyway.

2:47 AM, November 09, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

roborat, VPro isn't "free". You need to buy a higher spec LOM part (with VPro support), not the regular cheaper LOM that Intel offers, nor will it support non-Intel LOM.

My problem with VPro is this:

I am an IT administrator with 1000 desktops today.. installed. NONE of them with VPro.

Now I buy another 200 units, with VPro.

Now what? I use one set of Intel-closed-standard apps to run the VPro machines?

Then I buy my Tivoli/OpenView/UniCentre to run my old boxes? Why would I want 2 disparate management systems.

IMHO, Dell is on the right track. Back an open standards based secure management protocol (look at the Trinity initiative from AMD which covers not just management but also secure management and secure partitions), and you will be able to manage an entire suite of applications and infrastructure. From notebooks to desktops to servers.

11:03 AM, November 09, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"IMHO, Dell is on the right track. Back an open standards based secure management protocol (look at the Trinity initiative from AMD which covers not just management but also secure management and secure partitions), and you will be able to manage an entire suite of applications and infrastructure. From notebooks to desktops to servers"

Actually, Dell gathered their inverstors and apologized for not supporting vPro earlier. THey found out that HP will maintain the number 1 spot is pc share due to vPRO.

vPRO does not appeal to fanbys. Why? It is not a gaming machine. It is a machine aimed at better manageability. So, believe it or not, IT guys are drooling over it. And it is supported by a more than 20 software vendors.. Check the list yourself at Intel site..

6:00 PM, November 09, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Intel's main selling point with VPro is that they give the management software free.

So if you end up buying OpenView etc afterwards.. what's the point?

ps Intel is also part of the DMTF, which is an open standards consortium. I guess they just hedging their bets. Go with a proprietary one to lock everyone else out, but if open standards win, they will say they had a hand in it too.

9:38 PM, November 09, 2006  

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