Photo of a true quadcore CPU
See this. Patty must hate it. Intel engineers will have more sleepless nights digesting AMD PDFs and pulling their hair -- to copy AMD's features, such as 48 bit physical address.
The Chinese did a test on the low end X2 3600+ and Intel's bread and butter P4D 820 (2.8GHZ), the X2 3600+ is up to 20% faster. Intel needs a 2.8*1.2 = 3.36GHZ Pentium D to compete against the lowest Athlon64 X2.
Conroe, you say? DELL has a quota of 12 chips per day.
posted by Sharikou, Ph. D. @ 10/10/2006 04:54:00 PM
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Who is Patty?
Is that like me calling you the Pretender?
WOW a picture of something that is promised in Q2'07. That means best case this hot silicon hogging beast will ship to Dell and others on June 30th of 2007. Which means volume cumming about 2 quarters later. WOW is AMD late or what?
Sharikou "PhD" can you provide us a quote on the benchmark of this photo compared to the machine INTEL showed at IDF. I'd like to see a benchmark war between real hardware and a die photo.
But again INTEL is going BK so AMD would win with a picture.
Who is Patty?
Patty hates AMD, Patty used to love DELL, now he hates DELL. He also hates HP, Lenovo, IBM, SUN, because they use AMD chips.
Where is the cache? WTF is this really?
A photo is not going to save AMD;)
Jeez that is ugly.
I can't wait til they show it off before the end of the year.
http://www.hothardware.com/articleimages/item845/big_die.jpg
Core 2
http://news.com.com/Quad-core+Opteron+faster+at+virtualization%2C+AMD+says/2100-1006_3-6124515.html
Is that all they got, faster virtualization?
"DELL has a quota of 12 chips per day."
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"Therefore, I expect Intel to raise prices to delay it bankruptcy by two quarters to 2Q08."
;)
"Alienware shows 4x4 power"
Going to show..
"Core 2 Duo is slow as hell"
" AMD failed to follow my advice"
That wasn't hard. And you wonder why people don't trust you xD
Could you link to where you found the information about Dell getting 12 conroe's a day? Thanks.
"n4cr said...
No cache in that pic or am I just not recognising it?"
The L2 cache is smaller with K8L.
If you look at the 4 almost identical "plots" in the centre, those are the 4 new K8L cores with 128bit FP and improved IPCs. The L2 (vertical strip like uniform patterns) caches are aligned next to each other, separated in the middle by the crossbar switch (horizontal strip)
The L3 cache is the vertical strip like uniform pattern on the left side of the silicon.
"Patty" is what Sharikou likes to call Pat Gelsinger who is the Senior Vice President General Manager, Digital Enterprise Group for Intel (as quoted from the the biography page of intel.com). From my understanding, he does a lot of the public speaking and announcements for Intel during IDF and new product launches. Interestingly enough (and purely Sharikou), he's NOT the general manager of the technology and manufacturing group, nor is he the one in charge of sales and marketing. So essentially, Sharikou is mocking the wrong person if he really wanted to make a dig at Intel.
Is it just me or was that link of yours in Chinese?! Interesting tactic to quote something that the majority of readers can't read. Thankfully, I'm fluent. That being said, I was just curious if you really read the article or just looked at the pretty bar graphs to make your point?
Also... in for the picture you left us with there was I nice little summary that you forgot to point out. Thankfully, I'm generous to donate it for all who will follow:
AMD's 'Barcelona' processor
October 10, 2006 3:16 PM PDT
Advanced Micro Devices showed a photo of the "Barcelona" processor, a quad-core Opteron chip due to ship in mid-2007, during a speech Oct. 10 at the Fall Processor Forum in San Jose, Calif.
What I'm left wondering is if this is/was the same chip you said had been pulled in and would be shipping by Christmas? When I read 'due to ship in mid-2007' that sounded like end of Q2, but more than likely in Q3 as previously announced. What sayeth you?
"DELL has a quota of 12 chips per day."
It's nice to know that single rather small distributor in a country with only a little more than 1M people has ten times of that in its stores, and that is only for one of the low-end part
http://doctorpeep.ee/index.php?lang=est&main_id=125&id=310989
Counting all of the C2D's I got ~2600 CPU's for Finland and Estonia, a bit less than 500 are currently in stores in Estonia. There must be something special about Estonia or Intel wouldn't send so many chips here, would they?
For some weird reason there are very little X2's here. A whole 11 of them.
http://doctorpeep.ee/index.php?lang=est&main_id=124&id=295690
Forgot to say that the cache is around the cores. Those things in the corners of the chip are the L3. The thing in between left and right side cores is the L2.
We all knew AMD's where 1.2ghz to 1.5ghz faster then a P4-D. Thats why Intel had to go Conroe!
So whats your take Sharikou...
-link-
Won't this hurt AMD?
The L2 is in the middle, and L3 on the left side.
From the size of L3 it seems z-ram was not used.
Sharikou,
Before Conroe shipped you said you can't compare an existing, shipping chip to something that's not out yet.
I believe the term you used was, "vaporware".
Now you're defending K8L, which, by your own words, is, "vaporware".
You can't have it both ways, doctor. You've been caught with your pants down.
Why is it going to take until Q2 07 to have Barcelona shipping? I saw the photo of the core and the photo of the pre-production wafer.
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