Saturday, September 09, 2006

Dual core computing for $159

Frys has a very good combo deal. Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (socket 939) and ECS RS482-M motherboard for a total of $159. I bought one to upgrade one of my PCes. Why not AM2? I still got a few DDR1 memory sticks, so I can reuse them. AMD should keep making socket 939 X2s, and sell them as CPU upgrades.

19 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's cute.

1:10 PM, September 09, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im using opty 144...i love it...im looking for dual opty but they are too pricey...x2 4400 is not too bad isnt it?

1:41 PM, September 09, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give us something to chew on before Intel annhilates AMD some more with Kentsfield on 9.11:)

2:20 PM, September 09, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shariku - are you in the bay area?

2:39 PM, September 09, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give us something to chew on before Intel annhilates AMD some more with Kentsfield on 9.11:)


Annihilate huh? Intel can't even sell enough CONroes to layoff its workforce. Much less earn enogh to ramp Kentsfield up. Dream on, fanboi.

9:07 PM, September 09, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW that is cheap, must a load of crap firesale. Something can only be so cheap because it can't be sold at a higher price ( to little for too much $ ) Or it can't be moved as no one wants it.

AMD cpus are like two day old fish, you can drop the price way way low but there still won't be any takers. Of course I've seen who buy that two day old fish at the market...

Is that Sharikou there with his PhD lable on his grocery cart... damm he must be proud of that title. you think his parents have a license plate holder that his proud parents of a PhD...

10:24 PM, September 09, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

I forgot to mention that Pentium D 2x2MB 65nm dual core+MB combos are sold at $98. But, no one want the crap, people either buy X2 or Conroe. The problem is Intel can't make that many Conroes, so they had to layoff 10K workers and send them to the streets.

10:28 PM, September 09, 2006  
Blogger Pop Catalin Sever said...

"Give us something to chew on before Intel annhilates AMD some more with Kentsfield on 9.11:)"

It's gonna be better than Conroe allright is is the best right now but having an quad core on a 1066 FSB it not going to give more tha 50% average performace increase.

Also I also would like to see how well it does in memory intensive applications like encoding and rendering! But I'm quite sure that TH won't use anything but favorable benchmarks for Kentsfield.

Anyone ready for some more super pi tests ? I sure do run a lot of aplications on a powefullmachine that's some hundred kilobytes in size (fits in cache and hides Conroe and Kentsfield's ugly FSB bottleneck) and does nothing useful!

If the new Kentsfield is suposed to be so good for multhitheadhing that will allow you to do alot of things at the same time I would like to see a test where diferent aplications are run on each core at full load(Ex:2 diferent video compressions on 1 Core each , Win Rar 1 Core, Game or 3D Rendering on the last one) hmm.... but I cand bet my ass it ain't gonna happen because that's Kentsfield and Conroe's architectural weakness ... and TH wouldn't want to lose their position as Intel's first choice!!!

No matter even without enthusiast leadershit AMD is gaining market share in the Server market and PC mainstream!

It seems like Conroe's superiority is harming Intel more than AMD.The time for AMD to show of their cards will come even eventualy if a half of year later then the desperate rush to market Intell did with Conroe.

If Intell would have won the perf crown on the same manufacturing process like AMD 90 nm vs 90 nm then they would have been the true performance kings but they didn't do that they only changed manufactoring process faster using suport from they bilions gained by illegal practices. That only shows their superior financial power not their technical superiority!

5:04 AM, September 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Intel has lots of old Netburst inventory piling up because they were pimping Conroes waaay before they are ready.

Now that you can start getting some Conroes, they are already pimping Kentsfields!!??

How the heck are they gonna get rid of all the old and current inventory?

Someone in marketing forgot to check with the inventory guys?

Good thing I don't have Intel stocks :) I don't have AMD stocks either, but that's another story :P

9:03 AM, September 10, 2006  
Blogger S said...

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=61808-1

Some more negative news for Intel. I know Sharikou is going to spin it saying the website is a "paid pumper".

9:15 AM, September 10, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

I know Sharikou is going to spin it saying the website is a "paid pumper".


No. That guy just has the IQ of less than 50. When you see a 4 core machine getting lower score that one core, you know the application is single threaded.

9:31 AM, September 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AMD should keep making socket 939 X2s, and sell them as CPU upgrades.

Sadly they aren't doing that. No matter what you say this is just another indication that AMD is capacity constrained because they can't manufacture S939 and AM2 product lines in sufficient volumes sie by side. I'm sure the Dell deal isn't helping much at all either.

12:36 PM, September 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you see a 4 core machine getting lower score that one core, you know the application is single threaded.

So are you admitting that Conroe is faster in single threaded applications? That's pretty significant coming from you.

12:37 PM, September 10, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

So are you admitting that Conroe is faster in single threaded applications? That's pretty significant coming from you.


I said long ago that Conroe has a 10-15% lead in IPC. It turned out actually that lead is in integer performance only.

Unfortunately, Intel can only maintain this lead for a few months at very low unit volumes. Then it will be pushed back another 3 years by K8L.

12:56 PM, September 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some fly said "So Intel has lots of old Netburst inventory piling up because they were pimping Conroes waaay before they are ready."

I heard them Netburst were selling lot hot cakes... maybe because winter is coming and they are cheap. Heat your house, got a fast / hot computer for cheap and heat your house too.

Lets see what Q3 inventory looks like...

I'll wager AMD's numbers will be looking nasty, worst then INTEL's.

12:58 PM, September 10, 2006  
Anonymous Wirmish said...

Quote -> AMD should keep making socket 939 X2s, and sell them as CPU upgrades.

Quote -> Sadly they aren't doing that. No matter what you say this is just another indication that AMD is capacity constrained

Look at this:
http://img.presence-pc.com/news/2/0/2048_large_amd_eol_more_more.png

2:07 PM, September 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sharikou please point me to the link where Intel LAYED OFF 10,000 workers.

To date there have been 1000-1500 layoffs, with anywhere from a couple of thousand - 5000 by mid next year.

If you actual bother to read beyond headlines (I know it's a novel thought for you, because those pesky facts may get in the way) - it's 10500 reduction but to date of the 5000 "cuts" ~80% have been through attrition and sell of comm businesses. The remaining 5500 will be mix of attrition and layoffs.

8:38 PM, September 10, 2006  
Anonymous Edward said...

"AMD cpus are like two day old fish, you can drop the price way way low but there still won't be any takers. Of course I've seen who buy that two day old fish at the market..."

I don't know about you, but I'm glad to spend less than $200 to upgrade to a decent dual-core PC, whose performance is unmatched by most if not all Pentiums.

As for two-day old fish - Netburst is really that! Intel got 4 billion worth of those. You must find Intel stink very much lately, uh?

11:22 PM, September 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sharikou please point me to the link where Intel LAYED OFF 10,000 workers.

10500 + 1000 + Intel pda/cell team

From Intel fan boy site:
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/05/31/intel_to_lay_off_16000/

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/07/13/intel_announces_layoff_of_1000_managers/

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2006-09-05-intel-job-cuts_x.htm

3:43 AM, September 11, 2006  

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