Wednesday, July 19, 2006

Woodcrest out in the woods

Woody, woody, where are you?

You were born 25 days ago,
but no one heard you wail,
except the Sam the Uncle,
who sent you back to Intel.

22 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, not really the best poem in the world... If I were you, I would stick to covering developments in the 64-bit market and stay away from writing poems...

11:11 AM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wood wood, wood as long as eye can see

11:22 AM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Roses are red
Violets are blue
If Intel hadn't paper launched Woody
Who woulda knew?

12:02 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Q: How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

A: Depends if the wood chuck is using a Intel or AMD based computer.

;^p

12:49 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know this is a very obscure site, but I hear this place called "Newegg" has Woodcrest processors for sale.

I don't know how good of a store it is - I've certainly never heard of this "NewEgg" before - but it's worth a look, I suppose...

1:28 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know how good of a store it is - I've certainly never heard of this "NewEgg" before - but it's worth a look, I suppose...

Out Of Stock
Free Three Day Shipping
Move To Wish List

1:47 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Newegg has no Woody's in stock...

1:50 PM, July 19, 2006  
Blogger jam said...

P.S. Notice the goose egg in stock.

2:02 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous amd fanboy literacy foundation said...

As AMD fanboys don't look like they can read anything that talks good about Intel, this should lay to rest that (1) Woodcrest Xeon is shipping and (2) Woodcrest Xeon totally frags Opteron 285, beating Opteron on virtually every single test.

Sadly for AMD, they are not dropping prices are the market demands, they are doubling the prices of Opteron chips starting next month. AMD has realized that it has lost the desktop, notebook, and entry level server markets and is retreating to high-end science-fair servers like those from Sun and Cray.

AMD's first step towards getting out of the desktop market is the announced 50% price cuts so that AMD can clear out their inventory. It will help to minimize AMD losses. Next month, AMD will clear out their notebook inventory. And it looks like AMD stopped production on 1P/2P Opteron for the mass market a while back. So while there are still high-end 1P/2P chips for Sun and a few other vendors, that is basically it.

If AMD is not able to clear out their chip inventory, a BK is imminent.

---

"The Final Word

When we first looked at Intel’s Xeon 5100-series processors a month ago, we were left with a craving for more. With the high-end 5150 and 5160 models now out on the market (and actually available for sale as well), we are left extremely satisfied with the product which Intel has delivered. For the past several years, Intel’s Xeon platform has continually grown worse and worse in terms of power consumption and heat production. While some stop-gap solutions were implemented, like the Xeon 5000-series, this still did not address the problem at hand. Intel’s “Netburst” architecture was never truly comfortable as a workstation / server class processor. The new “Core” based Xeon 5100 models are a far, far better fit for these types of environment.

If you made it through the last several pages of benchmarks, you can clearly see that Intel’s new Xeon 5150 and 5160 processors are absolutely top of the line in terms of workstation application performance. Both of these models were able to best AMD’s top of the line Opteron 285 processors in nearly every benchmark, which previous generation Xeon processors simply were not capable of doing. Server performance is still a close call, but Intel’s new Xeon processors again perform fantastically well here. While topping the performance charts is a fantastic achievement for Intel, making things even sweeter here is that Intel is delivering better performance at lower prices. AMD’s Opteron 285 processor still sells for $1100-$1200, whereas the new Xeon 5160 sells for $900-$1000, whereas the Xeon 5150 (which still bests the Opteron 285 in most tests) sells for $700-$800. Thus, Intel is winning not only in raw performance, but also price/performance as well.

The new “Core” architecture also allows the Xeon 5100-series models to compete properly in terms of performance per watt. Intel’s Xeon processors now have a reputation for being power hungry and hot, whereas these new Xeon processors run fairly cool and sip far less power, allowing for quieter Xeon workstations and servers. The lower power consumption numbers will also be attractive for those looking to use Xeon processors in rackmount and cluster server environments. Our tests showed that these new Xeon processors did not have a significant advantage over the Opteron in this area (which was surprising, as similar products on the desktop have showed Intel with an advantage in this area), possibly due to the new Intel 5000X chipset and FB-DIMM memory being used, both of which utilize more power than previous generation technologies (both are not used on desktop platforms, either). The platforms are more or less on par now when it comes to power consumption, which is great to finally see.

AMD’s once mighty Opteron platform is now looking not nearly as attractive as it once was. While AMD has done a great job with the Opteron thus far, allowing them to penetrate into markets which none of their previous architectures would let them, it’s now in dire need of an update. Luckily, AMD is well on their way to delivering one, moving the Opteron to a new socket with DDR2 memory support, among other things, along with an eventual move to 65nm technology, which should allow them to compete properly against Intel’s Xeon 5100 series processors in both clock speed and power consumption. Unfortunately, we still don’t have exact dates on when we’ll see these new Opterons, so we can’t forecast whether it’s worth the wait for them. As of right now, Intel simply has a stronger platform at a better price. If AMD wants to compete, they need to drop prices on their current Opteron processors immediately and get their next generation platform out there soon; otherwise Intel will be quick to gain back that workstation market share they’ve lost. It’s going to take some time for IT professionals to trust the Xeon line again, but for the first time in several years, we’re seeing the Xeon line take back its once high-end name and allure. The new Xeon 5160 is quite possibly the fastest chip which Intel has ever produced, and it’s the most impressive Xeon product of the decade. Your move, AMD."
Here.

3:56 PM, July 19, 2006  
Blogger Entrophos said...

Dear amd fanboy literacy foundation:

Please show us where we can buy individually packaged Woodcrest processors, or systems that aren't on backorder or with a future shipping date. I can't seem to find them, ergo, it seems as though Woody is AWOL.

The flamebait you posted has nothing to do with the topic, btw so I guess you're the ID-ten-T that can't read, eh?

5:17 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous boytoreckonwith said...

ya know what makes me laugh, is intel fanboys who are proud that intel finally made a good processor. so what? that means you were a fanboy durring the p4 age?

it's also funny that the NEW intels are faster than an old AMD processor. So they have their "top of the line" for now, but when amd comes out with *L 65nm and so on, intel will be behind for ANOTHER 5 years.

Enjoy your moment in the sun, Intel. It won't last long

5:40 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why does intel do this to themselves, no self respecting engineer would state publiclly that ones product will be released on a certain date free of bug ready for primetime. only idiots shoot themselves in th foot.

5:47 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Your move, AMD."

Checkmate, 4x4 & 8p

6:28 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

""Your move, AMD."

Checkmate, 4x4 & 8p"


It's pretty damn hard to checkmate anyone with VaporPawns.

And that is all AMD has today. Vapor, vapor, and more vapor.

4x4 = self-frag vaporware for Hummer lovers.

8p = science projects for the Global 50.

AMD is getting killed in desktop, notebook, 1P server, and 2P server. This is 95% of the market.

The only thing that is AMD's strength today is 4P server.

If Intel manages to field a better system for 4P, AMD is down the tubes.

Can't wait until next month when Opteron prices double. That may even cause a massive slowdown in AMD's 4P sales. Oh well.

6:40 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Please show us where we can buy individually packaged Woodcrest processors, or systems that aren't on backorder or with a future shipping date. I can't seem to find them, ergo, it seems as though Woody is AWOL."

I just showed you where you can buy a Woodcrest processor today.

You can buy a system from the same vendor today.

Maybe Dell doesn't have enough chips to get their vast machine moving. But that doesn't mean Woodcrest is not available.

So you can stop being a moron now.

6:46 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear amd fanboy literacy foundation (i.e. the intel fanboy media marketing program via pawns like u...):

Hooked on Phonics helpeth mee.. and it can helpeth u too.

I think Intel sent their 1st batch to Uncle Sam... you might have heard of him, almost as famous as Newegg. It crashed on him, so he rejected it and deemed it unfit for the US Government...

So, they've rebadged them Conroes, and you can pick them up at a store near you soon!! Come and get em'... :)

(off-topic: Newegg is awesome!! Best products, great shipping, awesome customer service!! Wouldn't go anywhere else.)

Keep the poetry coming, that made my day...

8:22 PM, July 19, 2006  
Blogger Entrophos said...

I just showed you where you can buy a Woodcrest processor today.

You can buy a system from the same vendor today.

Maybe Dell doesn't have enough chips to get their vast machine moving. But that doesn't mean Woodcrest is not available.

So you can stop being a moron now.


Have you actually tried to buy one from them? They have a list of systems including Core 2 Duo chips which, according to Intel, aren't officially launched yet. So please tell me how can they ship you one now? Oh wait, you can't.

You can order one, sure. Lots of vendors will put up advanced orders or claim availability to make sales and get your money. Then they'll hem and haw about availability, etc, etc, etc until they can actually fill your order. I have personally dealt with this BS before so I guess I'm not as naive as you are.

Maybe you don't remember when Duke Nukem Forever was available as a paid pre-order? It's been almost 10 years and we're still waiting....

9:17 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And that is all AMD has today. Vapor, vapor, and more vapor............... Oh well."

Hostile dialog stated without merit or facts do not count, you deserve Intel.

9:45 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Gandalf said...

Please show us where we can buy individually packaged Woodcrest processors, or systems that aren't on backorder or with a future shipping date. I can't seem to find them, ergo, it seems as though Woody is AWOL.

My first Woodcrest server arrives on Monday! It seems at least at my place they are available now.

11:09 PM, July 19, 2006  
Blogger Azary Omega said...

Did you guys notice that newegg sells OEM (secondhand) woodcrests?
Strange isnt it. Maybe those things realy are unstable? Then again what kind of a moron company intel has to be to sell SERVER chips that have unstability isues?

11:38 PM, July 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"OEM (secondhand) woodcrests?"

An OEM chip is bought from a distributor that would normally sell to system integrators and smaller manufacturers. That doesn't make an OEM chip a *used* chip.

If you think this, then go look at many vendors who sell OEM Opterons vs. retail Opterons. The OEM Opterons are not "secondhand" processors.

F-inAMDers don't even know how their own chips are sold!

8:05 AM, July 20, 2006  
Blogger Azary Omega said...

An OEM chip is bought from a distributor that would normally sell to system integrators and smaller manufacturers. That doesn't make an OEM chip a *used* chip.

If you think this, then go look at many vendors who sell OEM Opterons vs. retail Opterons. The OEM Opterons are not "secondhand" processors.


Well... you're right and youre wrong. What i mean is that you're explanation of "OEM" is great, what you dont know is that newegg sells secondhand stuff as OEM. That + great customer service = success.

P.S. i do but lotz of stuff from them by the way. and i mean A lot

11:40 PM, July 20, 2006  

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