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I bet that the applications and benchmarks installed will be a small set that not so much favour Intel conroe performance halo but more importantly don't crash the OS with protection errors because of hardware bugs in conroe. (Intel => dead man walking)
It's highly unlikely that Conroe is as buggy as you describe, because it's so late in the development process. Most of the bugs have probably been squashed at this point. And Intel is hardly a "dead man walking" at this point. They still control 79% of the CPU market, and still are turning in profits (albeit smaller ones, due to competition from AMD). Plus, initial reports show that Intel's new Core 2 architecture will be significantly faster than AMD's current offerings, which will help Intel regain marketshare.
Regain marketshare?? from 79% to 100% ?. More retain marketshare, i think, because the ball has started to move very fast for intel down hill. How much processor (conroe) will they have to churn to cover 79%? very very much and that only if amd is gone in this minute,but the supply could last another 6 to 7 months from AMD side. The interesting question is: Why the hell intel is still holding 79% of market with outdated, old architecture?? Gone are the days when intel all mighty could sell 90%, no matter what intel does. AMD is no more small or moneyles company. My take: 50/50 only if intel delivers now, in 2-3 years time.
1. Intel has a long tradition for selling complete, well working solutions (chipset/cpu). that's something that amd just started recently... (some year ago you had to buy a great athlon xp with a crappy mobo chipset of via...)
2. up to now intel had the best solution for mobile platforms. maybe that can change with the new turion (?)
Can't you just smell the desperation? Intel will do anything to get back to where they were before.
I would not be surprised if there are "accidents" at AMD's fabs or if key staff at AMD start croaking off -- from natural causes, suicides, and small plane crashes, of course.
Intel's latest fraud is a good indicator that Intel's shareholders are doing their best to dump sooner rather than later. Maybe 6-12 months is the window for pumping and dumping all the Intel stock on the public.
Great, everyone in the world will be readying their fake benchmarks, especially the independent testers out there. Intel is purposely deceiving everyone, especially the highly educated, except Dr. Sharikou. No one will deceive him.
Great, everyone in the world will be readying their fake benchmarks, especially the independent testers out there. Intel is purposely deceiving everyone, especially the highly educated, except Dr. Sharikou. No one will deceive him.
Do you also believe that the Iraq "war" was really about WMD and "democracy"?
In the world today, speaking the truth is a revolutionary act. Do not attack a man for speaking the truth vs. Intel's deceptions.
WOW!!! I wasn't aware that this blog was political. Why on earth would every person who is given a chance to benchmark "Conroe" lie? Is Intels reach that great? Come on guys.
"WOW!!! I wasn't aware that this blog was political."
Agreed, leave the politics to the political slanted bloggers, this is a blog about the tech industry and more to the point due to it's name, 64-bit computing.
"Why on earth would every person who is given a chance to benchmark "Conroe" lie? Is Intels reach that great? Come on guys."
It's not so much they are going to lie, it is that Intel likes to stack the cards against AMD any and every chance it will get to secure it's monoploy on the market, period. This includes kickbacks and payoffs of interviewers I'm sure as well (Tom's Hardware anyone?) as controlling a "open benchmarking of thier next gen processors" in a "unbiased enviroment" where an Intel and AMD machine are not even able to be positively indentified by the reviewers of how it's setup or if it's even what they claim the machines to be exactly. When there are too many questions to be asked before even the offical results are to be seen from retail parts, it raises ALOT of eyebrows and skepticism. Intel does not have a clean track record of deliving on promises as well, much less integrity and honesty towards it's competition, so with that said, can you not blame people for being skeptical???
As I have been told years ago, business is business anywhere you go it seems, no matter how dirty it gets. And Intel's hands are VERY dirty folks.(read up just how dirty on faceintel.com) Past history between the two in the business world is also a great reminder of that too... The 80386 debacle ring a bell?
"Why on earth would every person who is given a chance to benchmark "Conroe" lie?"
How many are given such a chance, in the whole world? Did you ever count? My guess is you probably could count them with your own fingers, and none of them disclose the full configuration of their systems (I'd be gladly corrected if you show otherwise).
A result sited 10 times doesn't give more confidence than the single one.
I think you write great articles Sharikou. At the very least, you're making people think hard about a lot of the moves Intel is making lately and how they seem to scream desperation.
I own several AMD systems and I love them. They were cheap for the performance I got (especially my 3800+ X2 system) and they seem more reliable than my friend's Intel systems (based on the complaints I've heard). I also spank them in benchmarks.
I just wish that the IT purchasers at my company would read some of this stuff and stop buying Intel. We have Intel everything and it's costing us a lot of money. However, there seems to be no way to deprogram the "Intel Inside" and "AMD isn't X86 compatible" advertising BS that seems to have a gridlock on their brains. I've complained before that our tenders should include AMD but it's had no effect whatsoever.
Any ideas on how to make them wake up and realise that AMD is a viable and better choice in many cases?
If you want your company to use AMD, than bring in a Pentium 4 system and a Athlon 64 system and pit the 2 against each other in front of them and show them how much better the AMD system is, and than all the doubt gets washed down the drain with Intel's NGMA.
AMD has great processors. Intel promises better processors. They are coming soon.. Lets wait and see. Do not prejudge. You need to wake up. Intel knows that they can not cheat because the ramification are devastating if they get caught. Let's assume that they are at least that smart. Shame on you though of attacking you fellow bloggers and independant respected sites who perform benchmarking. You gave them credit and referenced them when they show AMD procs kicked the crap out of P4s. Now you discredit them because they did not satisfy your fantacies.. Sorry boys, you are wrong and nobody in their right mind will have respect for your opinions..
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Its cool now I know that I'm not going to buy any Intel cpus untill Conroe is in the stores,
it'll match my osbourne-2
I bet that the applications and benchmarks installed will be a small set that not so much favour Intel conroe performance halo but more importantly don't crash the OS with protection errors because of hardware bugs in conroe. (Intel => dead man walking)
It's highly unlikely that Conroe is as buggy as you describe, because it's so late in the development process. Most of the bugs have probably been squashed at this point. And Intel is hardly a "dead man walking" at this point. They still control 79% of the CPU market, and still are turning in profits (albeit smaller ones, due to competition from AMD). Plus, initial reports show that Intel's new Core 2 architecture will be significantly faster than AMD's current offerings, which will help Intel regain marketshare.
Regain marketshare?? from 79% to 100% ?. More retain marketshare, i think, because the ball has started to move very fast for intel down hill. How much processor (conroe) will they have to churn to cover 79%? very very much and that only if amd is gone in this minute,but the supply could last another 6 to 7 months from AMD side.
The interesting question is: Why the hell intel is still holding 79% of market with outdated, old architecture??
Gone are the days when intel all mighty could sell 90%, no matter what intel does.
AMD is no more small or moneyles company. My take: 50/50 only if intel delivers now, in 2-3 years time.
Why the hell intel is still holding 79%
There are two answers for that question:
1. Dell
2. AMD limited production capacity
It is almost impossible that you go to the shop and choose between 10 Intel and 10 AMD laptops.
Why the hell intel is still holding 79%
There are two answers for that question:
1. Intel has a long tradition for selling complete, well working solutions (chipset/cpu). that's something that amd just started recently... (some year ago you had to buy a great athlon xp with a crappy mobo chipset of via...)
2. up to now intel had the best solution for mobile platforms. maybe that can change with the new turion (?)
Can't you just smell the desperation? Intel will do anything to get back to where they were before.
I would not be surprised if there are "accidents" at AMD's fabs or if key staff at AMD start croaking off -- from natural causes, suicides, and small plane crashes, of course.
Intel's latest fraud is a good indicator that Intel's shareholders are doing their best to dump sooner rather than later. Maybe 6-12 months is the window for pumping and dumping all the Intel stock on the public.
And after that, who cares?
Great, everyone in the world will be readying their fake benchmarks, especially the independent testers out there. Intel is purposely deceiving everyone, especially the highly educated, except Dr. Sharikou. No one will deceive him.
Great, everyone in the world will be readying their fake benchmarks, especially the independent testers out there. Intel is purposely deceiving everyone, especially the highly educated, except Dr. Sharikou. No one will deceive him.
Do you also believe that the Iraq "war" was really about WMD and "democracy"?
In the world today, speaking the truth is a revolutionary act. Do not attack a man for speaking the truth vs. Intel's deceptions.
WOW!!! I wasn't aware that this blog was political. Why on earth would every person who is given a chance to benchmark "Conroe" lie? Is Intels reach that great? Come on guys.
"WOW!!! I wasn't aware that this blog was political."
Agreed, leave the politics to the political slanted bloggers, this is a blog about the tech industry and more to the point due to it's name, 64-bit computing.
"Why on earth would every person who is given a chance to benchmark "Conroe" lie? Is Intels reach that great? Come on guys."
It's not so much they are going to lie, it is that Intel likes to stack the cards against AMD any and every chance it will get to secure it's monoploy on the market, period. This includes kickbacks and payoffs of interviewers I'm sure as well (Tom's Hardware anyone?) as controlling a "open benchmarking of thier next gen processors" in a "unbiased enviroment" where an Intel and AMD machine are not even able to be positively indentified by the reviewers of how it's setup or if it's even what they claim the machines to be exactly. When there are too many questions to be asked before even the offical results are to be seen from retail parts, it raises ALOT of eyebrows and skepticism. Intel does not have a clean track record of deliving on promises as well, much less integrity and honesty towards it's competition, so with that said, can you not blame people for being skeptical???
As I have been told years ago, business is business anywhere you go it seems, no matter how dirty it gets. And Intel's hands are VERY dirty folks.(read up just how dirty on faceintel.com) Past history between the two in the business world is also a great reminder of that too... The 80386 debacle ring a bell?
Some food for thought.
"Why on earth would every person who is given a chance to benchmark "Conroe" lie?"
How many are given such a chance, in the whole world? Did you ever count? My guess is you probably could count them with your own fingers, and none of them disclose the full configuration of their systems (I'd be gladly corrected if you show otherwise).
A result sited 10 times doesn't give more confidence than the single one.
I think you write great articles Sharikou. At the very least, you're making people think hard about a lot of the moves Intel is making lately and how they seem to scream desperation.
I own several AMD systems and I love them. They were cheap for the performance I got (especially my 3800+ X2 system) and they seem more reliable than my friend's Intel systems (based on the complaints I've heard). I also spank them in benchmarks.
I just wish that the IT purchasers at my company would read some of this stuff and stop buying Intel. We have Intel everything and it's costing us a lot of money. However, there seems to be no way to deprogram the "Intel Inside" and "AMD isn't X86 compatible" advertising BS that seems to have a gridlock on their brains.
I've complained before that our tenders should include AMD but it's had no effect whatsoever.
Any ideas on how to make them wake up and realise that AMD is a viable and better choice in many cases?
If you want your company to use AMD, than bring in a Pentium 4 system and a Athlon 64 system and pit the 2 against each other in front of them and show them how much better the AMD system is, and than all the doubt gets washed down the drain with Intel's NGMA.
ok AMD fanBoys,
AMD has great processors. Intel promises better processors. They are coming soon.. Lets wait and see. Do not prejudge. You need to wake up. Intel knows that they can not cheat because the ramification are devastating if they get caught. Let's assume that they are at least that smart. Shame on you though of attacking you fellow bloggers and independant respected sites who perform benchmarking. You gave them credit and referenced them when they show AMD procs kicked the crap out of P4s. Now you discredit them because they did not satisfy your fantacies.. Sorry boys, you are wrong and nobody in their right mind will have respect for your opinions..
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