Thursday, December 28, 2006

Intel must produce documents related to foreign conduct

Discovery rules basically have no limits, with the exception of some privileges. So AMD naturally wins this round. As I pointed out earlier, once AMD got more evidence, it can freely amend its complaint to add the dismissed portions back in.


PS: I found that AMD has shifted most of its production to Athlon x2 4200+ (65 w). The X2 3800+ which frags Pentium XE 965 by a good margin is now purely entry level.

PPS: You can get two brand new Opteron 265 (1.8GHZ dual core) for a total of $350, plus a $300 Tyan board, that's enough performance to frag any Intel chip at $650 by 60%, in fact, two Opteron 265s ought to be enough to frag the 8 core T1.

11 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"in fact, two Opteron 265s ought to be enough to frag the 8 core T1."

this is NOT true :) in fpu spec, probably, yes.
in highly threaded network/DB operations - no.

looks like you found new enemy of the mankind. sun.

11:28 AM, December 28, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

looks like you found new enemy of the mankind. sun.


Unlike the condemned monopoly powers, SUN is not an enemy of the mankind, it doesn't have the capacity to become the enemy of mankind. GOOGLE has the potential of becoming the enemy, SUN does not....

11:44 AM, December 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As I pointed out earlier, once AMD got more evidence, it can freely amend its complaint to add the dismissed portions back in"

They can TRY to amend the complaint - only problem is well over 50 years of precedent that supported the judges ruling, so unless you get an activist American judge who feels it his right to tell Japan, China, England, (fill in every other country)...how their own trade practices should work, then the complaint won't be amended...

The US court does not have jurisdiction of chips made in Germany which turned into computers manufactured in Japan (or elsewhere) and then sold in say Indonesia (or elsewhere).

The only thing they can use the "evidence" (implying they actually find something illegal); they can oly use it to support the US case.


And in any event this is all a waste of time as Intel will be BK by the time the trial starts so AMD won't get a penny for damages.

12:10 PM, December 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And in any event this is all a waste of time as Intel will be BK by the time the trial starts so AMD won't get a penny for damages."

Damn, AMD won't even be able to recover it's legal costs after all this effort. It sucks to sue your competitor for damages and to come up empty because they went bankrupt! LOL

10:42 PM, December 28, 2006  
Anonymous The Sheepshagger said...

What I'm curious is this... do you have an inside source that told you AMD has shifted production, or did you just count the 78,ooo+ units available for those three chips on that page and then deduce that on your own?

On a sidenote... that's a helluva lot of chips for one vendor to have in stock. This smells of a glut of unmoveable material to me.

3:54 AM, December 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unlike the condemned monopoly powers, SUN is not an enemy of the mankind, it doesn't have the capacity to become the enemy of mankind. GOOGLE has the potential of becoming the enemy, SUN does not....

Google doesn't have the capacity to be any sort of threat to humanity. In fact, it has very little real power.

Why?

Google is based on other people's web pages and information. All Google does is portray itself to be an impartial sorter and displayer of data. Should Google ever be untrusted by the masses, there are other viable alternatives out there for pretty much everything Google does.

In fact, there are much better (or at least equally capable) free alernatives to Google - Vivisimo for searching, Mapquest for Google Maps, Yahoo/Hotmail/etc. for free email and the list goes on.

Plus it's not (generally) installed on a PC, so if there is no internet connection, there is no Google. Plus, people CHOOSE Google, it's not a requirement to have a functioning computer or to access information on the internet.

So I argue that Google is no real threat to anything.

However, Microsoft does have the power to be a serious threat. Most of the code in the world is and has been written for Windows, and most of the operating systems used by humanity are Windows.

Should Microsoft tweak Vista, say, to gather personal information or something nefarious, it could seriously ruin everyone personally.

And Linux, as darling as it is, offers nothing for technically inept people, nor has the capability to run Windows software (which most of the consumer world uses) natively. So anyone without the time or energy to learn how to use Linux has nothing left except Mac OSes.

Since Mac also suffers (but is evolving a little bit at least)from similar barriers as Linux sans complexity of use, it isn't a viable alternative either.

So if you're going to worry about someone - worry about Microsoft, not Google. Google has no capacity to become an "enemy of mankind".

9:50 AM, December 29, 2006  
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10:02 AM, December 29, 2006  
Blogger Jeach! said...

Intel must produce documents related to foreign conduct


I never really understood this!

If I'm going to do something illegal, I sure as hell won't document it!

And if I was stupid enough to document it and someone sued me, I think during the time we were in court for them to get access to these documents, I would be shreading like crazy!!

What does AMD expect out of all this? To win approval to get the documents? Walk into Intel headquarters and see a file cabinet with a sticker written:

"Illegal conduct documents"

Open the cabinet and see thousands of files with names, addresses, time stamps, prices, etc, etc?

What AMD needs is to convince the CEO's of all the companies that were bullied by Intel to finaly come forward and TELL THE TRUTH!

These CEO's are truly stupid! They have the opportunity for the first time in history to even out the playing field and create a duopoly... and help them as companies in the long run. But they sit back like chicken little F!@#$. They must be getting personally paid by Intel, otherwise they would would all spill the beans!

Jeach!

10:56 AM, December 29, 2006  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

And if I was stupid enough to document it and someone sued me, I think during the time we were in court for them to get access to these documents, I would be shreading like crazy!!


That's why Japanese raided the companies.

In any case, the panalties for destroying evidence may be severe. If the defendants despoiled evidence, a court may order default judgement against them. In a P2P case, the p2p user wiped out the hard drive of her computer with software, and the user is pretty much finished for good -- she lost any chance to defend herself. The plaintiff is going to write down a ruling and ask for arbitrary amount of money...

11:02 AM, December 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back to you being a legal expert as well. Is there anything you haven't done Sharidouche?

11:05 AM, January 01, 2007  
Blogger Sharikou, Ph. D said...

Back to you being a legal expert as well. Is there anything you haven't done Sharidouche?


Anyone who can read can be a legal expert. Unlike engineering or science, you don't need a lot of background. JD is a 3 year degree, I think it's equivalent to community college.

What's important is to apply domain knowledge to law.

11:18 AM, January 01, 2007  

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